andy mills <and-@wharne.u-net.com> wrote: 

> Egroups is fecked, again (surprised? Not).

I take it that's how I logged on to the website at the beginning of 
the week to find I had been subscribed to a TI-89 list? :-(   I'd never 
even seen a TI89!



--------------------------
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Alternative email: quacksoftware@crosswinds.net

Studying at University of Wales, Swansea
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Down with Gateway - LONG LIVE AMIGA!!!!!

> 
> On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
> 
>  
>  On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 necronlord@totalise.co.uk wrote:
>  
> > suggest some good ftp sites as well as web sites. I need a version
that
> > will work with a 68EC020 1200 with 8mb of ram but no fpu or mmu.
> > 
>  no MMU = no Linux.
>  
>  theres a version that runs withno FPU, but Linux *needs* the MMU

Is there any way i can add a mmu cheaply to my a1200 without buying an
accelerator.

              Yet again
                       necronlord 

Hello Matthew

On 21-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Kneel before me you pitiful beings!, kneel before your master!,
> mwahahahahha. I just completed quake on nightmare level, will 100% kills
> and secrets :)))))

  So you're /definitely/  my brother's double ( or is it the reverse? )
Hope you won't mind if I forward him this great claim for victory.

  Patrice
  

Hello Matthew

On 20-Oct-99, you wrote:

> What!!??? I answer all emails addressed to me unless they've come to an
> end.

  I forgot to apologize publicly, and hereby confirm that I owe you a pint.

  Patrice

> IIRC Escom only sold the glasses in the European market. The company th=
at
> made them went bust in 1997.

  For sale : solderer's glasses; just the right thing for watching the ec=
lipse; never
used!

  Patrice =


( getting used to abbreviations - fist believed that OT was some
kind of new OS <:-> )

  Dear Mr Vost

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
 =

> If you haven't done so yet, please vote in the two polls I've posted
> before Monday since I'll be closing them both then. Both polls are
> important, not least because they can be used to show that the Amiga
> market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints.

  Which I quite understand, but... not all Amiga users are militants, and=

I'm not sure the result of this poll will reflect reality.

  Most average users like me have been "supporting" the Amiga for years,
first by upgrading their systems ( an obvious necessity which allowed the=

machine to survive ) and then by actually buying the software
they were using - and that certainly wasn't a common attitude at the begi=
nning
( remember how easy it was to copy any software working on a most expensi=
ve
machine called the A1000! )

  BUT as far as the OS and the machine itself are concerned, we've had to=
 "wait and
see" for so long that I wonder if one can *now* decide if he's going to b=
uy 3.5 or
not, knowing that a new Amiga is supposed to be available by the end of t=
he
year! I'd be glad if someone told me this argument is faulty.

  Best regards,

  Patrice

> >  On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 necronlord@totalise.co.uk wrote:
> > =20
> > > suggest some good ftp sites as well as web sites. I need a =
version
> > > that will work with a 68EC020 1200 with 8mb of ram but no fpu or =
mmu.
> >=20
> >  no MMU =3D no Linux.
> > =20
> >  theres a version that runs withno FPU, but Linux *needs* the MMU
>=20
> Is there any way i can add a mmu cheaply to my a1200 without buying =
an
> accelerator.

No, you may as well buy an accelerator. For =A360 you can practically
increase your Amiga's speed by a factor of 10, and have an MMU and FPU,
plus the ability to have up to 32Mb of RAM (sold seperately, =A340 ish)

If you REALLY want to run Linux even THAT won't be good enough. 'tis
a slow beast at the best of times, and if a 40Mhz 030 can't hack it,
then damn well sure a 14.3Mhz 68EC020 won't.

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Ok, one more thing and I'll stop bugging ya :)

Do you know how to use Dos on PCs?

Ive gone into Run...
and typed FTP to start the ftp program.

Im logged in to my domain on my server but I cant figure out what
cammand and syntax to use to upload a revised home.html page.  Nothing
seems to work.

(I could go home to do it but while Im here its free to stay online
asking you all these questions :)

Thanks Matt.

Bifford the Yougest.

> I Do I Do I Do!!!!
> LOL *)
>
> John
>
> > >> 1) Anyone with a 500 isn't going to have the oomph to run 3.5. I thought
the
> > >> winging 500 owners had died years ago!
> >
> > > this is where false assumtions are made. there are plenty of A500 people
> > > who have higher specs than the average A1200 owner. 28MHz 020s, 030's
> > > and 040's are out there...certainly matching the os3.5 requirement
> >
> > Oh really.  Where did your figure of "plenty" come from?
> > Quick survey (too small for a poll - I'm not expecting many replies) -
anyone
> > who still uses a sooped up A500 raise your hand (ok, mail us)

Hi John
You're only the second person to reply and it's been ages since I asked... so it
looks like the A500 is only really being used for the classic games...
RobM

> 
> Ok, one more thing and I'll stop bugging ya :)
> 
> Do you know how to use Dos on PCs?

Yes.
 
> Ive gone into Run...
> and typed FTP to start the ftp program.
> 
> Im logged in to my domain on my server but I cant figure out what
> cammand and syntax to use to upload a revised home.html page.  Nothing
> seems to work.

lcd c:\wherever\the\file\is\
put home.html

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"> lcd c:\wherever\the\file\is\
> put home.html

Hmm.  Did that and its loaded up the originall page, not the new one. 
The only file in C:\my dockuments is home.html yet it uploads the old
version.

Very odd.

Bifford the Youngest.

Hi Patrice,

>  BUT as far as the OS and the machine itself are concerned, we've had to
> "wait and see" for so long that I wonder if one can *now* decide if he's
> going to buy 3.5 or not, knowing that a new Amiga is supposed to be
> available by the end of the year! I'd be glad if someone told me this
> argument is faulty.

The main fault in your argument can be easily summed up with one phrase -
"what new Amiga by the end of the year?"

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/index-e.htm

Patrice Champarou wrote:
> 
>   BUT as far as the OS and the machine itself are concerned, we've had to "wait and
> see" for so long that I wonder if one can *now* decide if he's going to buy 3.5 or
> not, knowing that a new Amiga is supposed to be available by the end of the
> year! I'd be glad if someone told me this argument is faulty.

The new amiga isn't exactly happening, is it? There is the BoXeR, but
won't that be using OS3.5 anyway?

curry

-- 
Scramjet stands for supersonic combustion ramjet. A mixture of fuel and
air 
flows through the scramjet at supersonic speed. Ablation is severe, fuel
is
poorly mixed with air, and the maximum velocity is unknown. Skeptics
call it
scamjet because it is made of a wishalloy reinforced with unobtanium.
:-)

> Hi Patrice,
> 
> > going to buy 3.5 or not, knowing that a new Amiga is supposed to be
> > available by the end of the year! 
> 
> The main fault in your argument can be easily summed up with 
> one phrase - "what new Amiga by the end of the year?"

The one that AOL and Gateway are co-designing?

Christ, did I just stick up for Amiga? What IS the world coming
to? :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hello Alan L.M. Buxey, on 22-Oct-99 09:23:23 you said about:
  [afb] Re: free4all mail speeds 

>On 21 Oct 1999, Dave wrote:

>> Is it me or do other free4all users download mail @500 cps?

>well, everytime i've connected to free4all i've only got a 19200
>connection :-|

That sounds a /bit/ like it's reporting the serial-modem speed and not
the connection speed to Free4All. If it is, add W2 to your modem init
string and that will make it report the connection to f4a.

Also, I'm sure Andy Sillwood would say this, but make sure you're using
the 0845 3003150 phone number. Personally, I've found that I can connect
to Free4All at the same speed as any of the other ISPs I use...

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 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.the-works.org.uk
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ONCE (wuns), adv: Enough.

Hi,
 I've just had a rather good idea for a game - RobotWars

Use your team's scrounging skills to collect materials for cheap
Design your robot by sticking components together
Use your team's building skills to make a solid robot in time
Operate your robot against the house robots and other computer
controlled 'bots
Compete against others over the internet
Battle through several rounds to win the prize
Make repairs/modifications to your robot in the intervals

unfortunately I have no idea how to go about programming this... =(
and the name Robot Wars would have to be changed as its property of
Mentorn (unless we can get thier backing?)

Can anyone help me with the coding (in a 'first name on the coder
credits' kinda way)

-curry

-- 
Scramjet stands for supersonic combustion ramjet. A mixture of fuel and
air 
flows through the scramjet at supersonic speed. Ablation is severe, fuel
is
poorly mixed with air, and the maximum velocity is unknown. Skeptics
call it
scamjet because it is made of a wishalloy reinforced with unobtanium.
:-)

I have a shuttle technology ide-parallel enclosure which i use with a
dvd drive on my laptop. I was wondering if anyone knew where i could
get drivers for the parallel-ide unit for the amiga, or at least a
cd-rom driver that supports parallel, kind of like the zip drive. 
Please email replies to altea@btinternet.com
thanks...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
To: afb@egroups.com <afb@egroups.com>
Date: 21 October 1999 15:17
Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5


>
>I just thought it was important to tell folks that they could now get it
>(since there hadn't been any announcement from Amiga to this list) and
>Power were the first people to tell me they had it in stock. I'm sure you
>have copies of it too, so people should also call Eyetech on 01642
>713185...


.....  AND our carriage on OS3.5 is only 3.00 for 1st class recorded
delivery (not 5 as from PC) ....

(missed that first time round)


Alan




Eyetech Group Ltd
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Sales lines open Monday-Friday 09:00-18:00 UK time (04:00am - 1pm EST-USA):
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Please confirm urgent sales by phone or fax.
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       made to respond to written support requests within 5 working days.
       It helps us respond quickly if you number each question and leave
       1/3 of a page below each point for a reply. Thanks.

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Sealey, M. <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Friday, 22-Oct-99, 00:03:51
 About:  [afb] Re: (Fwd)  call charges and 'free' ISP's 


Hello M.,

>>> You can also get Macrovision removers now; you'll find them 
>>> advertised in satelite TV mags, since Sky added Macrovision
>>> to Digital Box Office films.
 
>> Blimey, they don't waste much time cracking these things, do they ?
 
> There's nothing to crack. All Macrovision does is litter the signal
> with false signals which correspond to the vertical sync on your TV -
> your video will send these out every 50th of a second anyway, to
> commence the start of a new frame, but TV's will ignore them. VCR's
> however, use the signal to actually START a new frame, and therefore
> you'll never get a fully encoded frame on a re-recorded Macrovision
> tape - just the top bit and a bunch of fuzz is all you can hope for.

I wouldn't describe it like that.  They put a huge varying splat during
the vertical sync period all right, which causes anything with
automatic gain, and sloppy DC restoration, to squash the vertical
syncs.  This causes picture rolling, and a great big white hum bar as
the signal gets clamped to the wrong place.

VCRs, by and large, do record the frame in sync, but with such a
distorted picture it's unwatchable.  They DON'T "not start" recording a
frame.  Some do get the rolls, and record with an unlocked head phase
(you can see the switching point slowly drift up or down the picture
sometimes, or they just stay in the wrong place).  But the entire frame
is recorded, warts and all.

> All the boxes do is cancel *all* the signals that don't come every
> 50th of a second, cleaning it up. There really is nothing to it.
> In fact, it's always been said that it's a pretty lame copy protection
> method as it's all too easy to notice what it does :)

Any semi-decent sync re-insertion device completely eradicates the crap
put in by Macrovision.  They're not an uncommon device, video
production houses use them to fix up poor signals, and people have been
buying them for years to cope with damaged rental tapes which have tape
damage at the top or bottom of the tape, causing vertical sync
disruption.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

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(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia)
   
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support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.

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Hello Alan L.M. Buxey, on 22-Oct-99 09:46:36 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Voyager 

>On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Tim Seifert wrote:

>> Amiga System equipped with
>>   OS 3.0 or higher
>> Please obtain a version
>> suitable for your system.

>you havent got at least os3.0? 

>welcome to the 90's!!

His point is that the docs say that V requires a /minimum/ of OS2.0 -
the bit you snipped out. In other words, implying that it /will/ run on
OS2.0 when it won't....

-- 
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 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.the-works.org.uk
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Hello Alan L.M. Buxey, on 22-Oct-99 09:49:41 you said about:
  [afb] Re: My new (and first) Web Page :) 

>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 biffordyoungest@hotmail.com wrote:

>> http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net/home.html

>http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com/home.html

http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com will suffice.

-- 
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 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.the-works.org.uk
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Thou shalt not commit adultery.....unless in the mood.

> >On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 biffordyoungest@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> >> http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net/home.html
> 
> >http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com/home.html
> 
> http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com will suffice.

Does it really matter?

Hello Ben

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

[snip]
> to show that the Amiga
> market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints. 
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why waste three words when one will do........students! ;-)

Regards

chris
-- 
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-- TV Announcer, Father Ted

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram.....
Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hello Alan

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

[snip]
> .....  AND our carriage on OS3.5 is only =A33.00 for 1st class recorded=

> delivery (not =A35 as from PC) ....
> =

> (missed that first time round)
>
> Alan
> =

but...........you do charge 3% extra on credit card orders.......which yo=
u
conveniently forgot to add as well.

Regards

chris
-- =

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Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram.....
Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Deno=
n
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... =

> > >http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com/home.html
> > 
> > http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com will suffice.
> 
> Does it really matter?
> 

Not really - the page is still a load of rubbish atm.

Ive now got three books from our UNI library with me to give me a
helping hand.

Although I still cant seem to upload the new page with damn Dos.

Bifford the Youngest.

Hi, afb

Anyone ever noticed that when you change a partition (eg DOS/1 to DOS/5)
with reorg that HDtoolbox still thinks that the drive is in the old format ?

Not that it matters, but why isent HDtoolbox reading the bootblock to get
the partition information like everybody else in the world. But using its
own control blocks ie the RDB.

Matthew J Fletcher                                 DICE Development Group
amimjf@connectfree.co.uk                     http:bounce.to/matts
Matthew.Fletcher@student.shu.ac.uk    ICQ amimjf 44193496

Hi,
    A while ago I purchased an external CNET 56k modem to use with my Amiga
and my PowerMac, the thing is intended for win crap but I thought I can
configure it to work with both machines, so far no problem with the Mac but
with the Amiga strange things happens ! I have tried everything but the
program keeps telling me that it can't find the DNS servers, and the line is
faulty (it's the same line that works the with the Mac I'm using to write
this ;) ), very strange the modem goes online and after the process of log
in, it gets stucked !  It's very weird, I've tried everything I added the
DNS servers primary and secondary addresses to Miami/setup/databases but
without luck.

TIA

Rick
--
---------------------------------------------------------

Ricardo Fitzgerald A1500T Micronik Blizzard PPC 603e 240
OmNI   & 060 50 Mhz
   64 Mb RAM CD 40 x HD6.4 Gb  VLabMotion
   A2000 Apollo 2030 030 50 Mhz 32 Mb Wb3.1
   PowerMac 9500 150 96 Mb RAM
mailto:axis@distrinet.com.uy
ICQ: 37031810
---------------------------------------------------------

> [snip]
> > to show that the Amiga
> > market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints. 
>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Why waste three words when one will do........students! ;-)

Oi, Chris!

I'll have you know I spend out money left, right and centre on this
damn machine.  And it *Is* left, right and centre cause everything
costs 1 1/2 times as much as stuff in the PC and MAC world.

Although, a nice big loan does help its soon gone on phone calls
(internet that is).

Stop generallising.

Bifford.

Hello,

I have 4 devices connected to my IDE chain on my A4000, via the Eyetech
splitter.  I am running IDEFix 97 too.

Whenever a program crashes, or I do a software reboot (eg LoadIDE doing a
reset), the CD drive (unit 3) and the hard drive on that chain (unit 2)
vanish.  They only reappear when I do a physical (ie keyboard) reset.

Having tried it with a different CD drive, I've come to the conclusion that
it is this Creative 32x that is at fault.  I'd rather not use my other CD
drive (which can only do audio at 1x over the data bus), so  Iwas wondering
how to get this one to work properly.

Will cutting the RESET line on the cable going into the CD drive fix it? 
Or do I need a software patch of sorts?

Kev

PS On a similar note, i'm using BlizKick 1.17 to softkick KS40.70 until I
get my ROMs (ordered to arrive with OS3.5), and after it resets my machine
everything just hangs!  I have to do a reset to kick things back into
motion.  Anyone know why?

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 14701124

>
> Hmm.  Did that and its loaded up the originall page, not the new one.
> The only file in C:\my dockuments is home.html yet it uploads the old
> version.

If you're using a dos ftp, in a 32 bit os you need to eliminate the long
file names so its

"c:\my documents\home.html" (ie with quotes)

or

c:\mydocu~1\home.html

Mark

Hello sam, on 22-Oct-99 11:47:55 you said about:
  [afb] Re: My new (and first) Web Page :) 

>> Plus you haven't put a DTD at the top. (see my site for an example)
>> 
>> And HTML validator at..
>> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.co
>m/
>> .. tells me that:

>Whats a DTD Matt?
>And where can I get a HTML validator from?

For the amiga, search Aminet for checkhtml, on the PC, check out
http://www.htmlvalidator.com or online, use http://validator.w3.org as
Matt pointed at above.

>Whats the best web page creator available (I got webplug off aminet but
>it looks a little tecqnical for me.)

Webplug is actually quite easy to use, but if you're not sure what
you're doing, can easily create bugged code. Personally, I use GoldEd
with the WWW plugin.

If you have to use a PC, then Notepad will do it, but you'll have to add
tags by hand which makes it more likely that you will add tipping
eerors. Otherwise, Arachnophilia http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/
is good and free...


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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Friday, 22-Oct-99, 19:16:36
 About:  [afb] Re: Voyager 


Hello Alan,

>> Amiga System equipped with
>>   OS 3.0 or higher
>> Please obtain a version
>> suitable for your system.
 
> you havent got at least os3.0? 

Actually I have 3.1 on my 1200, but I recently acquired an A2000,
vintage style....

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert
mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au

(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia)
   
Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical
support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.

***  DO  NOT  SEND  JUNK  MAIL  *** 

OK, things are getting murky now. Four weeks ago I knew what I was
doing, saving for a top-grade PPC and BVision. Now phase5 say they're
building G4 cards and new graphics cards to go with them. So what do I
do? Wait till they arrive or just go for it? Added to that, according
to afb people seem to be having increasing problems with BVision, is
this just that the problems are surfacing in a minority of cases or
does it mean (as seems to be the case) that the cards are fundamentally
flawed?
Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? I ask merely because I'm
not about to throw my hard-earned wonga (three weeks in a tent for this
months pay!) after something that's going to fall over in a few months
time.
Also, has anyone heard from The World Foundry lately? E2260 is one game
that would make me forget my worries and splash out. The Amiga needs a
killer game to make the rest of the market sit up and take notice. The
PC market exploded on the back of fantastic(at the time) games like
Doom and Mechwarrior.

Hello Phil A.

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Here is a reply I had from ukonline with regards the authentication
> problems

> It does appear that we are having an Intermittent problem with our
> Authentication Servers, however are engineers are working on this and
> hopefully have the problem resolved very soon.

I have had no problems with access via UkOnline, i downloaded a ready
made config for Miami, all i had to do was add my user name and password,
when miami is started i get connected first time eveytime.

You can get the Config file from:

#www.ch.qub.ac.uk/staff/postdoc/tim/support/support/ukonline.lha#

Regards
-- 
Alan Bailey

ICQ UIN:42618074

WARNING: consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe you are invisible.

Sealey, M. said, 

>> And where can I get a HTML validator from?

> http://validator.w3.org

Or use CheckHTML (don't ask where to get it). This checks the code
against the DTD, so it's still definitive, but you don't need to upload
the pages to the server just to check them.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
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sam said, 

>> The best? Notepad/GoldED/CygnusED and a big book on HTML design.

> Which book is the best (but easy to follow), while being cheapish and
> where can I get if (if it isnt a commonly available one).

Go to a decent book store, like Waterstones, and browse their Computer
section. They'll have a hundred or so HTML books. Almost all of them
have the same basic information, the difference are in style, how deep
they go, how Windows-centric they are, and the price. Pick the one you
feel most comfortable with.

Or just buy the O'Reilly one, you can't reilly go wrong with their books :)


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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-- 
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> > > http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com will suffice.
> > 
> > Does it really matter?
> > 
> 
> Not really - the page is still a load of rubbish atm.

> Although I still cant seem to upload the new page with damn Dos.


Ahhh!  Damn Dos.

Ok:  I`m going home to see if I have better luck with my Amiga.

Expect some more posting in about a hours time :) (things to do on the
way)

Bifford the Frustrated.

Hi All,

I've tried to access AFB in Egroups.com with V3,
Netscape and IE and had found troubles with
EGroups tables...
V3 does not lay out AFB properly?
 
I had found that Voyager2.96.7 and also Voyager3-Pre4,
makes a mess displaying the egroups messages if you
use the correct EGroups Site Address:

http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/32688.html?

But if you use the following Address (changing only
www for pix):

http://pix.egroups.com/group/afb/32688.html?

Egroups Display all Messages OK using pix. instead of
www.(with Voyager 2.96.7 and the New V3-Pre4).

I really don't know what is happening, but it Works!.
Anyone on the list knows???

Since EGroups had problems last month, I think that
the problem is with the Egroups-Site, and not with
Voyager3...

All the best,

Ulises.

Hi All,

I've tried to access AFB in Egroups.com with V3,
Netscape and IE and had found troubles with
EGroups tables...
V3 does not lay out AFB properly?

I had found that Voyager2.96.7 and also Voyager3-Pre4,
makes a mess displaying the egroups messages if you
use the correct EGroups Site Address:

http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/32688.html?

But if you use the following Address (changing only
www for pix):

http://pix.egroups.com/group/afb/32688.html?

Egroups Display all Messages OK using pix. instead of
www.(with Voyager 2.96.7 and the New V3-Pre4).

I really don't know what is happening, but it Works!.
Anyone on the list knows???

Since EGroups had problems last month, I think that
the problem is with the Egroups-Site, and not with
Voyager3...

All the best,

Ulises.

______________________________________________________

Hi all,

I know I asked before but I appeal to anyone who may be 
considering whither to sell their Blizzard PPC.  
Especially with the new G4s on the horizon.  People 
upgrading to those new beasties, here is your chance!  
Although SCSI is not required any Blizzard PPC model will 
be considered.  And at least you will know your card is 
going to a good home.

Use my e-mail addy C.R.Buchanan@hw.ac.uk if your interested.

Please!

--
Colin Buchanan
Heriot-Watt University

> Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
> fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? I ask merely because I'm
> not about to throw my hard-earned wonga (three weeks in a tent for
this
> months pay!) after something that's going to fall over in a few months
> time.

Well, if anyone out there does have a BVision, then their bloody lucky!
Phase5 kept distributors waiting for 23 weeks, then told them they'd
stopped making them! Don't worry, though, DCE will be producing them...

> Also, has anyone heard from The World Foundry lately? E2260 is one
game
> that would make me forget my worries and splash out. The Amiga needs a
> killer game to make the rest of the market sit up and take notice. The
> PC market exploded on the back of fantastic(at the time) games like
> Doom and Mechwarrior.

E2260 will  be excellent, theres no doubt about it. By taking time,
they can make sure it is excellent. It will be glorious!

Paul

Hello Ben

On 22-Oct-99, everyone yelled at me:

> "what new Amiga by the end of the year?"

  Since I haven't read much about it ( except that ADFI promised it for N=
ovember ) I'll ingenuously ask if you mean that:

  - It's not likely to appear before months/a couple of years/at all
  - It won't have much/anything to do with an Amiga

  Sorry if this has already been talked about before I joined AFB; in whi=
ch
case I'll try to read the whole anthology... and send my vote in time!

  Greetings,

  Patrice=

Hello chris

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> to show that the Amiga market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints. 
> 
> Why waste three words when one will do........students! ;-)

  Well, /that/ makes me rather optimistic, you know! After I'd seen everyone in
France leave the ship, I thought only some old stubborn mules like myself
would hold on :-)

  Patrice

Hello Kevin

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Having tried it with a different CD drive, I've come to the conclusion
> that it is this Creative 32x that is at fault.

  I hope someone gives you a clue, but I can tell you /my/ Creative 32x i=
s
now safely sleeping in the attic, since I had exactly the same problems w=
ith
it - unexpected crashes or no boot - whenever I tried to add a third devi=
ce
( using a non-buffered splitter, I must admit )
  During the last months, it even caused my HD to stop spinning!

> Will cutting the RESET line on the cable going into the CD drive fix it=
? =


  You mean the red one? That trick works for HD's, but I was told not to =
do
it for a CD drive.

> Or do I need a software patch of sorts?

  I don't think so, but I'm sure someone here will tell you of IDE drives=
 that
work perfectly.
  I was so fed up with IDE problems that I got a second-hand SCSI x12 Pio=
neer
for about =A325 ( don't know exactly how much the pound is at the moment =
).
  It's fast enough, even as a source drive for CD burning, and can be swi=
tched on at
the same time as the computer ( recognised at once ).

  Good luck, 'cause I know how irritating it is...!

  Patrice

Hi Patrice,

>> "what new Amiga by the end of the year?"

>  Since I haven't read much about it ( except that ADFI promised it for
> November ) I'll ingenuously ask if you mean that:

>  - It's not likely to appear before months/a couple of years/at all
>  - It won't have much/anything to do with an Amiga

It's hard to say right now since things are all up in the air, but I think
you're only slightly being pessimistic with regard to Amiga.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)                T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Excuse for the day: piezo-electric interference

Hi Patrice,

>  I was so fed up with IDE problems that I got a second-hand SCSI x12
> Pioneer for about =A325 ( don't know exactly how much the pound is at t=
he
> moment ).

It's about 10.1FF to the =A3 sterling right now.

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)                T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
First rule of journalism: Always proofread carefully =

to see if you any words out.

Hello Sealey, M., on 22-Oct-99 13:06:29 you said about:
  [afb] Re: My new (and first) Web Page :) 

>> http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com will suffice.

>Does it really matter?

No, but it sames having to type the whole bloody lot - In other words, I
was just pointing out that it's not /necessary/ to add the /home.html
unless he wants to link to that page and the server will default to
another page such as index.html first. IYSWIM

-- 
 Andy Mills - http://www.wharne.u-net.com
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.the-works.org.uk
--
Welcome to Mars! Your passport and visa, comrade?

> It's about 10.1FF to the =A3 sterling right now.

  So, /less/ than =A320.

( Don't try to understand if you've missed the beginning )=

Hello sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> [snip]
>>> to show that the Amiga
>>> market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints. 
>>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Why waste three words when one will do........students! ;-)
> 
> Oi, Chris!
> 
> I'll have you know I spend out money left, right and centre on this
> damn machine.  And it *Is* left, right and centre cause everything
> costs 1 1/2 times as much as stuff in the PC and MAC world.

Eh?

Generic hardware (HD's, CD drives, monitors, keyboards, tower cases etc..)
are the same price.

Amiga specific hardware is, due to market forces, more expensive.  We _know_
that.  If you're an Amiga user in today's market, you accept that extra
expense, it comes with the territory.  If you're gonna whinge about, move
over to the wintel or mac.

Regards

chris
-- 
You better watch out, you better beware, Albert says that E=MC2.
-- Einstein A Go-Go, Landscape

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram.....
Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hello funky_gibbon@talk21.com

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
[snip]
> Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
> fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? 

Mine works like a dream and I haven't experienced any teething problems. 
And no....it isn't for sale. :-)

Regards

chris
-- 
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the most important thing, this side of the world.
-- Two Tribes, Frankie Goes To HollyWood

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram.....
Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

> >   Im new to linux and would appreciate it if someone could tell me
> > where to get all the files. Ive searched http://www.linux-m68k.org to
> > no avail, please help
> 
> what???
> 
> you obviously didnt read the page...otherwise you'd see the little
> section that says...
> 
> 6.Getting Linux -- FTP Sites that have Linux/m68k-related materials.
> CD-ROMs are covered in the FAQ and on the Distributions page.
> 
> from this, you can go to at least 4 FTP sites containing Linux kernel,
> and Debian and RedHat Linux versions

  Yes I know, but I dont know which files to download, what i would
like is a list of the needed files or an archive with all of them.
Please help.

-- 
  Cheerio

  ICQ #38639804

Hello Neil

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

>  Yes I know, but I dont know which files to download, what i would
> like is a list of the needed files or an archive with all of them.
> Please help.

Have a look at:

http://www.linux-m68k.org/debian-amiga.html
 
Cheers,
Rich

-- 
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Staff Writer, Amiga Format

mailto: richard.drummond@futurenet.co.uk
pgp   : http://www.drummond.u-net.com/download/richards_key.asc
phone : +44 (0)1225 442244 ext 2417

> 
> On 22 Oct 1999, Philip Meason wrote:
> 
> > I will ask the developers about whether this is possible. Considering I used
> > to work for Digita for many years, I am sure design would not be a problem
> > having designed Wordworth, Datastore, Organiser and others. ;-)
> 
> okay - i'm on that web site today :-)
> 
> please, can everyone go there in a prolonged period...if 300 Amigans
> turn up in a day, they'll suspect :-)
>  
> ..done.
> 
> I'd like to see it have all the features of the PC version.
I am hoping to get down to my brothers house so I can actually see it
80)  I have had to go by what others have told me.  My brother seems
pretty keen on it though.  
  Any suggestions on how we might go about convincing them to try a
port? 
Peace
Zanthras
-- 
Due to my anti-spam address, please either remove the
".nospamformethankyou" from the address before sending or Click below
to reply: mailto:zanthras@ukonline.co.uk 
<><
 Amiga Computers
http://www.amiga.com

hi,

> It is possible with the aid of many a file splitting
> tool, and besides, the full thing is only about 250Mb
> which is fine for a Zip250.. but then again, I don't
> have a Zip250..

A zip250 doesnt store 250Mb, it stores around 238Mb ;-)
 
> It will be mine, oh yes :)

it was just the thought of all the pain of getting it onto zip's rather
than one nice shiny CD :-)

oh! Can Debian2.1 be installed over the Net? If so, just download the
bootimage and suck it all down the line..installed right there and then
to the HD

alan

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com wrote:

> > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.co
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Whats a DTD Matt?

;-) - just look at Matt's page - at the top

> And where can I get a HTML validator from?

note the address above.
 
> Whats the best web page creator available (I got webplug off aminet but
> it looks a little tecqnical for me.)

c:ed
 
> Oh, and how come the counter doent work in Netscape when it works on my
> Miggy?
> -have to look into that one.

it worked for my (Netscape 4.7)
 
alan

Hello Everyone.

I guess that my usergroup Poll has expired. Can anyone tell me where I
can 
find the final results? (i.e. what posting number)

I trawled all the way back to wednesday (I swear it was there then) but
I cannot find it. Any help greatley appreciated.

Regards

Mikey C

Hello Alan

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> oh! Can Debian2.1 be installed over the Net? If so, just download the
> bootimage and suck it all down the line..installed right there and then
> to the HD

You just need the kernel and the base install. Install this and boot. Then
run the dselect package and you can choose which other packages you want.
It will automatically get them by ftp and install them for you. Neat, huh?

Cheers,
Rich

-- 
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Staff Writer, Amiga Format

mailto: richard.drummond@futurenet.co.uk
pgp   : http://www.drummond.u-net.com/download/richards_key.asc
phone : +44 (0)1225 442244 ext 2417

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com wrote:

> > The best? Notepad/GoldED/CygnusED and a big book on HTML design.
> 
> Which book is the best (but easy to follow), while being cheapish and
> where can I get if (if it isnt a commonly available one).

*buy* a book on HTML? theres enough online references that you can
download off the net and read offline to your leisure...

alan

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Richard Drummond wrote:

> There was limited space to do justice to any of the four system tested. 
 
okay, can we have another 4 page feature on them then? :-)

> Can we drop it now? ;)

well..if the above is done.... ;-)
 
alan

> Hello Alan
> 
> On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
> 
> > oh! Can Debian2.1 be installed over the Net? If so, just 
> > download the bootimage and suck it all down the line..
> > installed right there and then to the HD
> 
> You just need the kernel and the base install. Install this 
> and boot. Then run the dselect package and you can choose
> which other packages you want. It will automatically get
> them by ftp and install them for you. Neat, huh?

Just like every other Unix on the planet! Yayyyy!

I don't have time anymore, 'cos I reckon I've got OS3.5 at
home to install! Horrrayyy! Who needs Debian, eh?

Yay!

(BTW the 15Mb or so for the base archive fits rather neatly
on a Zip disk, Alan, I think I might install it one weekend
when the calls to u-net are free and I have a bit more time
to mess around :)

Neko

I do find it worrying that there seems to so many different 
people and organisations trying to take the amiga in far 
too many directions at once at the moment. It seems 
like every week another group has a new plan with a 
different processor, OS, bus, etc.

The OS problem was clearly caused by Amiga with their 
wild chase through Exec, QNX, Linux, and now Amiga 
Objects Running On Anything. But how many different 
bus systems have come out in the last year? Ateo, Z4, 
A1200 zorro, Boxer PCI. Surely they can't all survive, but 
if they do, how is any software going to cope with the 
different possibilities?

james
James Rollison
c96jr@dmu.ac.uk

sam said, 

> "> lcd c:\wherever\the\file\is\
>> put home.html

> Hmm.  Did that and its loaded up the originall page, not the new one. 
> The only file in C:\my dockuments is home.html yet it uploads the old
> version.

The server is case-sensitive. If you've uploaded HOME.HTML, you'll have
to specify that explicitly. If you give no page name, only the domain,
the server will look for home.html first and ignore the other page.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in
trouble again

Andy Mills said, 

> Personally, I've found that I can connect
> to Free4All at the same speed as any of the other ISPs I use...

Unless the ISP is running really manky dialin servers, you should get
a similar connect speed with them all. Connect speed is mainly
determined by the state of the copper between you and the exchange.

Connect speed is pretty irrelevant anyway, you modem could retrain to a
lower speed two seconds after connecting. All that counts is throughput.

Another example of the irrelevance of connect speed. When USR released
V90 code for their modems, most U-NET subscribers using USR found they
got a slightly lower connect speed with V90, but *higher* throughput.
Because V90 uses more efficient compression.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
I have plenty of talent and vision.  I just don't give a damn.

> Hello Neil
> 
> On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
> 
> >  Yes I know, but I dont know which files to download, what i would
> > like is a list of the needed files or an archive with all of them.
> > Please help.
> 
> Have a look at:
> 
> http://www.linux-m68k.org/debian-amiga.html

   No luck, ive found which files i need in the install doc, but when
i try to get them from the ftp sites they just respond with a
directory not found error when i click on the amiga directory.
   Where else would you suggest?
Please

-- 
  Cheerio

  ICQ #38639804

> I do find it worrying that there seems to so many different 
> people and organisations trying to take the amiga in far 
> too many directions at once at the moment. It seems 
> like every week another group has a new plan with a 
> different processor, OS, bus, etc.

Well there are three I can see so far:

Phoenix
Save The Amiga
Amiga (Inc.)

I don't count Amino as a valid effort, 'cos they mostly just
sponged off Phoenix and went their own way for some strange
reason. And I can't actually see Fleecy doing anything
worthwile.
 
> The OS problem was clearly caused by Amiga with their 
> wild chase through Exec, QNX, Linux, and now Amiga 
> Objects Running On Anything. But how many different 
> bus systems have come out in the last year? Ateo, Z4, 
> A1200 zorro, Boxer PCI. Surely they can't all survive, but 
> if they do, how is any software going to cope with the 
> different possibilities?

Drivers. Nuff said. At the very least the BoXeR will have
a fairly decent set of drivers available by Christmas, as
will the Z4 systems (for the faster Z2 slots etc.). Any
properly programmed application will use these drivers and
devices rather than hard-coded AGA chipset defaults, so
you have nothing to worry about.

And then there's the prospect of the BoXeR actually being
used as a QNX development system via the Phoenix initiative,
once it gets a PPC card of course. The same goes for any
Amiga with a PPC, but only the BoXeR will have active PCI
slots making for a much cheaper and easier solution to
expansion hardware (given that I doubt QNX will be supporting
things like old Zorro cards..)

Same goes for Linux - there must be a few PCI drivers for
LinuxPPC for the Mac systems - these drivers will be pretty
much interchangeable with Amiga BoXeR systems.

Just let it pan out though, the plans that are obviously
flawed will soon fail, and the ones that are bound to
succeed will probably do so.

Don't put your bets on Open Source. Go with Amiga if you
like that kind of thing, and if you want to develop some
neat QNX apps, follow Phoenix (or get a PPC card, it's
much the same thing)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > >  Yes I know, but I dont know which files to download, what i would
> > > like is a list of the needed files or an archive with all of them.
> > > Please help.
> > 
> > Have a look at:
> > 
> > http://www.linux-m68k.org/debian-amiga.html
> 
> No luck, ive found which files i need in the install doc, but when
> i try to get them from the ftp sites they just respond with a
> directory not found error when i click on the amiga directory.

Try this:

ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/current/amiga/amigainsta
ll.lha
ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/current/common/base2_1.t
gz

They are the two files cited by the docs. Download those, and as Rich says,
it'll ask to download the rest of the packages once the base is installed.

They're a few megs though, be warned :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester



>    Where else would you suggest?
> Please
> 
> -- 
>   Cheerio
> 
>   ICQ #38639804
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!
> 
> 

 
> Try this:
> 
> ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/current/amiga/amigainsta
> ll.lha
> ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/current/common/base2_1.t
> gz
> 
> They are the two files cited by the docs. Download those, and as Rich says,
> it'll ask to download the rest of the packages once the base is installed.
> 
> They're a few megs though, be warned :)
  
   Just did, but the server wouldnt let me, said it didnt exist
Any ideas?


-- 
  Cheerio

  ICQ #38639804

> Drivers. Nuff said. At the very least the BoXeR will have
> a fairly decent set of drivers available by Christmas, as
> will the Z4 systems (for the faster Z2 slots etc.). Any
> properly programmed application will use these drivers and
> devices rather than hard-coded AGA chipset defaults, so
> you have nothing to worry about.
Yes, but how many drivers? Drivers for different cards on 
different busses for different OS's. It'll be worse than the 
PC.
 
> And then there's the prospect of the BoXeR actually being
> used as a QNX development system via the Phoenix initiative,
> once it gets a PPC card of course. The same goes for any
> Amiga with a PPC, but only the BoXeR will have active PCI
> slots making for a much cheaper and easier solution to
> expansion hardware (given that I doubt QNX will be supporting
> things like old Zorro cards..)
I do hope the Boxer is successful, and the Ateo bus and Z4 
die off. I can't see some old bus cludged onto an A1200 ever 
being that reliable. Nor do I think QNX running an Amiga 
emulator will be that great.

> Just let it pan out though, the plans that are obviously
> flawed will soon fail, and the ones that are bound to
> succeed will probably do so.
It would be nice to think that were true but in the technology 
market it seems that the opposite happens. Just look at the 
PC hardware, MS-DOS, VHS/betamax, IDE/SCSI.

> Don't put your bets on Open Source. Go with Amiga if you
> like that kind of thing, and if you want to develop some
> neat QNX apps, follow Phoenix 
Open Source would be good, but I agree it's unlikely. I think 
the best route at the moment is a Boxer running OS3.5.

james

James Rollison
c96jr@dmu.ac.uk

> > The best? Notepad/GoldED/CygnusED and a big book on HTML design.
>
> Which book is the best (but easy to follow), while being cheapish and
> where can I get if (if it isnt a commonly available one).

Ahem

<plug>
Check out the last two issues of the Trogsoft diskmag, WOA (available from
http://www.trogsoft.co.uk/woa) as they have the beginnings of a HTML tutorial
which may, or may not be useful.
</plug>

:)

Neil

> >> Has anyone ever had a recoverable alert attached
> >> to EVERY damn keypress?
>
> > list sys:wbstartup all >T:feckarsedrink
>
> How does he type that without pressing a key? :)

:) At least I can type each letter, click the mouse to cancel the recoverable
alert, and type the next one. Or use R from Aminet, which'd be easier :)

It seems to have fixed itself, actually. Strangely. I THINK (surprise,
surprise), it was down to one of my programs :)

Neil

> To anyone who's interested...
> I've had big problems with an order I placed by e-mail from Epic
> Marketing for the best of Gremlin CD.
> Unfortunately when it arrived the CD was scratched so bad it was
> unreadable. When I contacted Epic they decline to do anything about it
> until I posted it back (at my expense).
> Why ?
> Because they said that people would pretend that the product was
faulty
> in order to get another for free. I pointed out that I have spent
> several hundred dollars with them previously without a problem.
> Their reply ?
> None.
> They've ignored my last four e-mails probably because they know I'm in
> Australia and can't do anything about it.

I've never had anything but good service from Epic. They always tend to answer
emails I send them, and they are good at sending out products (and they've all
worked so far). If Guildhall Leisure is anything to go by, I don't think you
should blame the actual company, but the one person who gets the immensly
boring job of putting the CD's in the cases (which first must be assembled).
Yes, this is something I had to do :)

Neil

> andy mills <and-@wharne.u-net.com> wrote:
>
> > Egroups is fecked, again (surprised? Not).
>
> I take it that's how I logged on to the website at the beginning of
> the week to find I had been subscribed to a TI-89 list? :-(   I'd never
> even seen a TI89!
>

Personally, I think we should allow eGroups their problems. At least they've
got the basics sorted out, and these bugs can only be solved if people report
them. Maybe it was due to them upgrading their service or something. Either
way, at least they've got the basics, unlike that demonic service 'Onelist'
who can't even get the [<listname>] in the right place on a mail's subject :/

Neil

> > market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints.
>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Why waste three words when one will do........students! ;-)
>

Oi! No! You can't say that. It's not true. It's completely wrong! It's "lazy,
selfish, loud-mouthed skinflints". Right!? :)

Neil - a student :)

Hey buddie.... Slap a copy up... and I'll test it on a few of the miggys here

bOing Ball


Gaz Griffiths wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I require some testers for the new game from JokerD, Aliens: Homeworld.
>
> The main menu is done at the moment and requires testing on as many machines as
> possible, altho' its AMOS based so probably won't work on GFX-card equipped
> machines ;)
>
> I'm going to start the game engine at the weekend. The game will be a cross
> between Alien Breed '92 etc. and Metal Gear 2 on the MSX. Baically a Stealth
> Shoot Em Up.
>
> a demo should be available relatively soon.
>
> i'll be putting more info on my site within the next few days.
>
> Cya!
> --
>  --           *Gareth Griffiths*:  gaz@jokerd.co.uk          --
> --- Founder of *Joker Developments*: http://www.jokerd.co.uk ---
>  --   *ICQ*:  52909563   *IRC*:  GazChap/#AmIRC (Undernet)     --
>
> Another victory for Truth, Justice and Automatic weapons.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/jokerd
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

On 22-Oct-99 14:21:56, Andy Mills (Andy@wharne.u-net.com) wrote:

>Also, I'm sure Andy Sillwood would say this, but make sure you're using
>the 0845 3003150 phone number.

Actually I wouldn't...

That number has some serious problems (C&W's fault) and a new Network Access
Point is going live in a few weeks (whether that means the above C&W number
will be turned off or not I don't currently know).

Please use 0845 0880031 as it is _much_ more reliable.


Regards,

Andy

--
Andrew Sillwood - mailto:sills@sills.cx - http://www.sills.cx - ICQ:13697313
 Connected via Free4all - http://www.free4all.co.uk - Free Internet Access

                                               ___
LIVE LONG, AND PROSPER            ___....-----'---`-----....___
                            =========================================
                                   ___`---..._______...---'___
Malcolm Harnden                   (___)      _|_|_|_      (___)
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                                      ~~~~`.__`---'__.'~~~~
                                              ~~~~~
Don`t try to be a great man just be a man and let history make it`s own Judgments.

On StarDate:- Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:28:41 +0100

The following was added to the ships log:- [afb] Re: Don't Order *Anything* From Epic !



SNIP
> I've never had anything but good service from Epic.
SNIP

On Wednesday I ordered 5 Cd`s from Epic - arrived Today, Friday :-)

No problems here mate.

Hi all,

OS 3.5 arrived yesterday :)

If you're interested here's some snaps of my WB:

http://www2.prestel.co.uk/ab2000/os35/os35.html

Nothing special atm, they were taken about 2 hours after I'd installed
it. (BTW, Your browser MUST support PNG images)

Regards, Andrew Bell.
-- 

+----------------------------------------+ 
email: mailto:andrew.ab2000@bigfoot.com or
       mailto:andrew@ab2000.prestel.co.uk
web:   http://www2.prestel.co.uk/ab2000
+----------------------------------------+
Searching our hearts for the first knowing, Love is a battlefield -PB

Hi all

My OS3.5 plopped thru the letterbox today ,hurrah. Well... here goes. Has
anyone else received/installed it yet?

Later.

Gavin

*/Original msg written by FD700990 on 21-Oct-99/*
i am sorry if i offended anyone -i was bored.  i do know quite a bit about
amiga's as i have owned 2 of them in the past.  however i do think its a bit
sad that you lot have nothing better to do than write to bored students.
please inform me of how you think the amiga has a prosperous future




> ----------
> From:     Simon Jenkins[SMTP:simon@jinky.connectfree.co.uk]
> Sent:     19 October 1999 18:29
> To:     fd700990@ntu.ac.uk
> 
> /*Thank You fd700990@ntu.ac.uk For Your Email Dated 18-Oct-99*/
>  
> > Get a life Ken.  I think that you should attatch your cable to your
> > television set pick it up. turn it halfway and shove it up your arse
> > by the way amiga's died a very long time ago this is a pointless
> > website and i dont even know why i am looking at it
> 
> I take it u don't like the Amiga platform?
> <tsb>
>  
>                               JINKY              
>       ***********************************
>             Infinitiv A1300 ZII PIV + Conceirto           
>                    CTX 15" Trinitron SVGA                        
>          GI-Quatro - HD - CD-ROM - Atapi ZIP       
>                 Blizzard 1230IV + FPU + 32MB          
>                          Pace 56k (V.90)                  
>                      Epson Stylus Photo 700             
>       *********************************** 
>                                            
>      "Bother," said Pooh, as he ran out of taglines.
> 
>   
>   
> 

*/End of forwarded msg/*


Did anyone else on the list receive a reply about this?
<tsb>

                              JINKY              
      ***********************************
            Infinitiv A1300 ZII PIV + Conceirto           
                   CTX 15" Trinitron SVGA                        
         GI-Quatro - HD - CD-ROM - Atapi ZIP       
                Blizzard 1230IV + FPU + 32MB          
                         Pace 56k (V.90)                  
                     Epson Stylus Photo 700             
      *********************************** 
                                           
 "Bother," said Pooh, as his flick knife failed to open.

  
  

    Hello all :)

        Amiga Impact is a new website dedicated to the French-speaking Amiga
community. Well, new is maybe not the right word, as the site was already 
known as "france.amiga.tm" ;). We currently provide a news service 
(in French ;o) updated almost every day, and some French-speaking resources 
(user-groups, resellers, ...). 

        With more than 800 visits per week (and it's still growing !), we are
one of the most visited French Amiga sites. So, if you have some news, 
do not hesitate to contact us at info@amigaimpact.com. We also offer free
advertisement to Amiga developpers, resellers, magazines....

        For more info, do not hesitate to visit our tiny english section of
the site, or contact us via email (info@amigaimpact.com) !

    Best regards,

-- 
 Stphane "SteaG" Campan

  . email : steag@amigaimpact.com | scampan@amiganews.com
  . icq : 15182256 . irc : SteaG

  . webmaster of *Amiga Impact* (#http://www.amigaimpact.com#)
  . contributor to the French Amiga magazine *Anews* (#http://www.a-news.com#)
  . member of the French Amiga Organization *AFLE* (#http://www.multimania.com/afle#)

Hello Funkey


 Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
> fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? I ask merely because I'm
> not about to throw my hard-earned wonga (three weeks in a tent for this
> months pay!) after something that's going to fall over in a few months
> time.

Yes I have a ppc+Bvis and it works very well. The main problem that I
had was getting cgfx to work and I had a dodgy monitor switcher. It is
stable even with a 160ppc+040!!!!
-- 
DaveK
AMIGA 1200t-ppc +now Bvision!!!

What ever happened to the InsideOut Amiga on a PC card? Is it ever
going to be made?
-- 
DaveK
AMIGA 1200t-ppc +now Bvision!!!

On 20-Oct-99, fool wrote:

>> Sorry, scrub fool, he's shown that he can be civilized

> I can!?  When was that?!  Bah, you try and insult someone and they go
> and call you civilized - I dunno what this list is coming to... ;)

Moron

happy? ;)

Mash - Cussing up Fool, big-time boo-shack-a-lack
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

Don't steal my tagline....leggo....OUCH...give that back!

On 21-Oct-99, stephen@scooby.freewire.co.uk wrote:

> 6 month warranty on these boards,

They only guarentee them for 6 months!!!!?? blow me, I would have expected
it to be years not months 

Mash - backed up
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

Vote --> "Deport all of the above" in `92.

On 21-Oct-99, MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:

>>> calmed down, but now you're back to the old arrogant, egotistical
>>> gobshite. :)

>> ROTFLMAO :)

> ...but how many agree?

Fire extinguishers at the ready :D you left of cuntybollock...

Mash - pyromaniac
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

Oxymoron: Cash Surplus.

Hi M.
Somewhere around 21-Oct-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: No
Subject (Windows 2000 OT)

>> stop calling me Matt!

> Why not, Matt? It *is* short for Matthew - I should know 'cos it's
> my name too :)

I rest my case.....

> No, it took them 5 SERVICE PACKS to get it stable. There is only *one*
> try, they have support teams dedicated to ironing out bugs. It just
> shows your ignorance of the software design and support process really.

You, me, M$ and everyone else on this planet knows that service pack is a
shite name for bug-fixed (ish) version. do not deny it, it's true

> Besides, NT4 is perfectly usable from a clean install. It's not Y2K
> compliant, and it's unsecure as hell, 

nice "features" there

> Your loss, Matty boy :)

:P~

> My point is that whether Linux can or cannot do the things our
> two domain controllers are doing, I doubt that YOU could set it
> up to actually do it. Actually I'm pretty sure I couldn't either,

Not at all, but I don't have to so therefore I don't a monkey's left
testical really

> I'll just call you Matt again for good measure, is that alright,
> Matt?

Mash - Mash - Mash - Mash
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

"How's God?"  "Errr, she's black, sir"

On 21-Oct-99, MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:

> Me too!  He must have just checked his mail for the first time since!

Pah!, he likes me more, he started cussing me about my boring website!!

Mash - making a new website, coincidentally
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

I built my own 386!  See where I nailed it together?

Hi M.
Somewhere around 21-Oct-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: No
Subject (Windows 2000 OT)

> work anything out for themselves, and means they have to jump
> to rather stupid conclusions about ANYTHING that happens to
> the Amiga, especially when the word Microsoft is involved.

Shit!, we're doomed, what have they done now? Oh gawd, oh gawd, it's the end
of the world, quick!, Ben, save us!, take us o your evil haven!

ehem

> Think kittens :)

mmmm...pussy........

Mash - doomed
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

"Have it as you will female," gloated the enhanced priest.

On 21-Oct-99, Ben Vost wrote:

>> Oh gawd no ! Not the pussy analogy again. You'll be doing the "but
>> aren't they cute widdle fuwballs..."  routine next  ;)

> Pussy? You're not talking about that AF130 cover again are you?

I was about to say that.....damn you!

Mash - Beaten to it
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

You tell 'em Custard Pie, You've got the crust.

Hello Richard Lane,
 your comments on [afb] Re: ukonline. . . have got me thinking
>Hello Andy

>On 20-Oct-99, Andy Kinsella wrote:
> 
>> over  the last week or three, when I dial up with Ukonline I get a
>> "PAP: authentication failed" message in miami. It seems to be
>> happening rather a lot; What the eff does it mean? My password isn't
>> recognised or summat? but ten minutes later it is. . . wtf?

I've had the same problem for the last week (Genesis). Also download speeds have
been slower


>Sounds exactly like the problem Prestel had a few months back when they
>upgraded the software on the authentication server, but happily it's been
>fixed now. It's that server that verifys who you are when you attempt to log
>on that's having problems by the sound of it. 

Never mind, ask Father Christmas for a wirenet subscription.

___________________________________________________
Phil Ellis Amiga 4000/040 PIV Magellan II ICQ 38892967
For information on Cystic Fibrosis
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/philllip.ellis/contents.htm
---------------------------------------------------
Do Roman paramedics refer to IV's as "4's"

Hello Paul Cundle,
 your comments on [afb] Re: StrICQ 0.1561 have got me thinking
>What are you on about, Gaz Griffiths?

>> That is the version I am using. Everything has been fine, up until a few
>> days ago. Every time I receive a message, the Amiga crashes.

>Probly no use, but WB went berzerk (not used that word for a long
>time) with ICQ messages when I installed Birdie. Have you done this?

>Within 5 minutes it was bye bye, Birdie...

>Paul C, with tangerine trees and marmalade skies

Funny old world isn't it. I've got StrICQ 0.1561 and Birdie running without any
problems. :-)


___________________________________________________
Phil Ellis Amiga 4000/040 PIV Magellan II ICQ 38892967
For information on Cystic Fibrosis
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/philllip.ellis/contents.htm
---------------------------------------------------

>>> The best? Notepad/GoldED/CygnusED and a big book on HTML design.

>> Which book is the best (but easy to follow), while being cheapish and
>> where can I get if (if it isnt a commonly available one).

I got "HTML The definitive guide" ISBN 1-56592-235-2. It wasn't cheap but it has
the added bonus of being pretty anti-microsoft :-)

___________________________________________________
Phil Ellis Amiga 4000/040 PIV Magellan IIICQ 38892967
For information on Cystic Fibrosis
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/philllip.ellis/contents.htm
---------------------------------------------------
"Bomb #20, you're out of the
bomb bay again."

matthew o'neill <mas-@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
 
> > 6 month warranty on these boards,
> 
> They only guarentee them for 6 months!!!!?? blow me, I would have
expected
> it to be years not months 

So did I!!! I spoke to eyetech today, who have no replacement stock,
nor do Phase5.  I was told to return it to them, who would return it to
Phase5 for repair and then chase them on my behalf, which seems like
good service to me, assuming that it is fixable :-(  However, the
downside to this is that it's costing me =A330 to eyetech for a "handling
charge," which probably won't include what Phase5 may charge to fix it.
 Fingers crossed, otherwise I'm left with a BVision and 32Mb of RAM
with nothing to plug them into, and an A1200 with 2Mb chip and and 020.
 I can't understand how people could use an Amiga this unexpanded
(although I did use an A600 with 2Mb chip and a 20Mb HD for a while -
painful!).  I'm having to write this using my work laptop directly on
the egroups site, as I don't have enough RAM to run Genesis and YAM
simultaneously.

BTW My Blizzard was previously recognised by the early startup menu, at
least I think it was.  I'm hoping it's just the RAM that's failed,
which may explain why the 040 still works but nothing else does, as the
PPC and BVision both require fast RAM to operate - not sure about the
SCSI.

Anyway, here's hoping for a safe and working return for my card.

Thanks for all replies

Steve Webber
stephen@scooby.freewire.co.uk

Neil Bothwick reckons he knows a bit about [afb] Re: AF130 - Month in view, but there's more to it than that.

> -- 
> I have plenty of talent and vision.  I just don't give a damn.

Sounds a bit like Gateway to me...

Paul C, until the end of the year 2000
-- 
... Q. What's the difference between a dead trombonist in the road and a
       dead country singer in the road?
    A. The country singer may have been on his way to a recording session.

I was just going to bed, when Neil Bothwick wrote this and I just HAD to read it:

> > I found out by accident the other day you can also go to
> > http://www.business.u-net.com/~yourdomain , so in your case
> > http://www.business.u-net.com/~biffordyoungest/ should also work.
> > Are there any good reasons for not doing this Neil, apart from not
> > being able to explain the tilde (~) symbol easily?
 
> No reason at all.

Goodo, might come in useful [ /me goes off to think how :) ]
I just wanted to make sure the www.business way wasn't going to
suddenly become defunct for some reason.

> Incidentally, U-NET were actually the first UK ISP to offer free web
> space, back when the web was only a small part of the Internet. They
> initially offered the staggering amount of 100KB of space, although
> this was soon upgraded to half a meg.

This reminds me, AmFTP tells me my webspace is something like 76% full
(can't remember now) but it shouldn't be anywhere near this. Uploading
a 5MB file only made about 1% difference though. Does anyone know
if this is an AmFTP bug?

> Neil
> -- 
> Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
> The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider

How come you don't say you run/own Wirenet any more?

Paul C, experiencing the joys of double entry
-- 
... DO IT in concrete, it stays harder longer.

Kevin Fairhurst reckons he knows a bit about [afb] Re: My new Email, but there's more to it than that.

> > Are there any good reasons for not doing this Neil, apart from not
> > being able to explain the tilde (~) symbol easily?
 
> Ummm, it's easy to explain the tilde, innit?  You say "tilde." 

But some people don't know what "tilde" means. And if you have do
describe it it isn't exactly simple. "That superscript squiggly line
thing". I only know it because I did GCSE Spanish.

> Kev

Paul C, hanging on
-- 
... God is REAL, unless explicitly declared INTEGER.

On Fri Oct 22, Alan L.M. Buxey was heard muttering:

> > I thought it had been decided, years ago, that "time shifting" (taping a
> > programme to watch later) wasn't copyright theft.
 
> yes..that was the purpose of them anyway. you just cant give your tapes
> to anyone else to view...or record

I remember seeing an advert/preview thing in a magazine a couple of
months ago about a video which lets you watch TV programmes and record
them at the same time in different places. It was like a big, fast
hard drive. You could record 15 minutes of a programme and then start
watching it while the rest of the programme gets recorded and you can
watch it all as if it was live, only 15 minutes after everyone else.
You could therefore watch a whole day's programme schedule whenever
you want.
Now /that's/ time shifting!

Can anyone confirm/expand on this?

> alan

Paul C, this evening
-- 
... Hypochondria is the one disease I have not got.

On Fri Oct 22, Andrew was heard muttering:

> > Cd Sys:Desktop/
> > List "" QUICK >>:.backdrop LFORMAT "%p%s" PAT=~(#?.info)

> I am going to try and write a program that will do this continually, ie, put
> a file there and it appears on the workbench.

Files in :.backdrop only appear on the backdrop if they're in there
before the workbench screen opens, so it won't be possible, will it?
Unless you force the screen to close and then open again - not very
nice.

Paul C, downtown
-- 
... Top Oxymorons Number 38: Government organization 

Whenever I click on a text file I get the 'Execute a file' window pop
up and filled in as follows:
 ":C/StartIDer <filename>".

Now I know that StartIDer is the file they used to use in CU Amiga
Coverdisk CDs but no matter how often I run AF preferences I can't get
rid of 'StartIDer' as the default.

Can anyone help me?

JJ (UK)

Ben

AF recently had an article on networking your Amiga but no mention was
made of using (either version of) Samba.

Might I suggest an article along those lines please?

Thank you most awfully...

JJ (UK)

Hello maartend@dds.nl

On 20-Oct-99, maartend@dds.nl wrote:

> 
> Computer City in R'dam (The Netherlands) has got ther stock as wel.
> 
> cya
> 
> maarten
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!
> 
> 
> 
Regards
-- 
I got mine copy today, but the cd will not work with the cd filesystem in
the blizzardppc. 
I had to use asimcdfs to read and install the OS.

I think it's NICE.
<sb>*Ron Hogenberk*

<sb>E-mail:/ronald.hogenberk@tip.nl/

<tsb>
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is
time to reform.
-- Mark Twain

> 
> unfortunately I have no idea how to go about programming this... =(
> and the name Robot Wars would have to be changed as its property of
> Mentorn (unless we can get thier backing?)
> 
> Can anyone help me with the coding (in a 'first name on the coder
> credits' kinda way)
> 

In the highly unlikely event of someone being interested, could you 
please mail me privately  mailto:atiminey@curator.connectfree.co.uk

thankyou.

-curator

Here are the results of the vote:

1. Yes, on an Amiga Server!			1
2. Yes, on a Linux Server			2
3. Yes, on a Unix Server			2
4. Yes, on an NT Server			2
5. Yes on another type of Server			4
6. Yes, without a Server			22
7. No			27

Hello All,

On 22-Oct-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> 
> hi,
> 
>> I've gotta get a new drive soon, my 1.3gig is full and there is
>> phenominal amounts of critical data on the sucker, I'll shove everything
>> onto the new drive and use the old one as backup. Anyone recommend a
>> good drive?
> 
> i'd recommend the Fujitsu drives.
> 
I'll second that and also recommend Western Digital drives. I'd stay well
clear of Samsung drives though, mine lasted about a month before creating
hundreds of bad blocks throughout the entire 6.4Gb, so I got it replaced
for a Fujitsu!

 

Bye,

-- 
Danny Shepherd.

UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://www.gespatcho.u-net.com
SMS: j215596@sms-genie.co.uk

Member of the AmigaRC5 team and cracking blocks at 831K keys/sec

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
-- Bertolt Brecht

Paul Cundle said, 

> This reminds me, AmFTP tells me my webspace is something like 76% full
> (can't remember now) but it shouldn't be anywhere near this. Uploading
> a 5MB file only made about 1% difference though. Does anyone know
> if this is an AmFTP bug?

Probably, try a different FTP client.

>> Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
>> The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider

> How come you don't say you run/own Wirenet any more?

I never did (say it, not own it).

The words are the same., only the layout is different. This is an AFB
special sig since I thought it was rather impolite to keep mentioning my
other job in here :-/


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Where do forest rangers go to "get away from it all?"

On Fri Oct 22, Phil Ellis was heard muttering:

> >Probly no use, but WB went berzerk (not used that word for a long
> >time) with ICQ messages when I installed Birdie. Have you done this?
> >Within 5 minutes it was bye bye, Birdie...

> Funny old world isn't it. I've got StrICQ 0.1561 and Birdie running without any
> problems. :-)

I've just checked and I've only got 0.1371 so I s'pose that's got
something to do with it.

> Phil Ellis

Paul C, in a moment
-- 
... "Blobberer," said Poo when he realised that his stick of chewing gum was
    in fact a razor blade.

Hello Danny

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

>>> Anyone recommend a
>>>  good drive?
>> 
>> i'd recommend the Fujitsu drives.
>> 
> I'll second that and also recommend Western Digital drives. I'd stay well
> clear of Samsung drives though, mine lasted about a month before creating
> hundreds of bad blocks throughout the entire 6.4Gb, so I got it replaced
> for a Fujitsu!
> 

Funny ol' world innit?  I wouldn't have a Western Digital even  if you paid
me ;-)

My personal choice is a Quantum BigFoot
 
Regards

chris
-- 
Ladies & Gentleman, let me present - Frankie Goes To HollyWood - possibly
the most important thing, this side of the world.
-- Two Tribes, Frankie Goes To HollyWood

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram.....
Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

What are you on about, Neil Bothwick?

> > This reminds me, AmFTP tells me my webspace is something like 76% full
> > (can't remember now) but it shouldn't be anywhere near this. Uploading
> > a 5MB file only made about 1% difference though. Does anyone know
> > if this is an AmFTP bug?
 
> Probably, try a different FTP client.

Okay, I'll probly wait till I get NC3 (next week hopefully...) and try
mFTP.

> > How come you don't say you run/own Wirenet any more?
 
> I never did (say it, not own it).

Oh, alright :)

> Neil

Paul C, wearing what I always wear
-- 
... Q: How many gorillas does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    A: Only one, but it sure takes a shitload of light bulbs!

Hello M.

On 21-Oct-99, you wrote:
 
>> I've never seen it running. Crashing badly, yes, but running no
> 
> Yo ho if you like.

Have you been watching the Hip Hop Years again? ;)

Regards

Hello M.

On 21-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> The orange pen with the light on the end haunts me. the 
>> light........so, so pretty...........must follow the light..
>> .....it is part of me.......e............[snipppp!]
> 
> Finally, some sense from the O'Neill clan! :)
> 
> Oh yes, Words and Pictures is GOD! 
> 
> Up, down, up and oveerrr! Up and down, up and OVERRR!
> 
> Write those letters, baby!

Sounds more like the beginning to a dirty novel. ;)

Regards

You've probably been asked this a million times (or there abouts), but
here can I use YAM to post (and download) messages to afb?

Thanks for any help,

Paul

Hello All,

Heres the problem :

I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no problems
with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!

I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting 28800k
MAX!!! :(

Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the gain
at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP

My Old House is approx 300 yrds away (I can even see the exchange from
my bedroom window)

Can any one help??? Please!!!

Paul Cundle said, 

> What are you on about, Neil Bothwick?

If you don't know, how do you expect me to know?

>> > This reminds me, AmFTP tells me my webspace is something like 76% full
>> > (can't remember now) but it shouldn't be anywhere near this. Uploading
>> > a 5MB file only made about 1% difference though. Does anyone know
>> > if this is an AmFTP bug?
>  
>> Probably, try a different FTP client.

> Okay, I'll probly wait till I get NC3 (next week hopefully...) and try
> mFTP.

Active received the NC3 CDs today, so most of the pre-orders should go
out this weekend.


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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-- 
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Hello funky_gibbon@talk21.com

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

Snip
> Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
> fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? I ask merely because I'm
> not about to throw my hard-earned wonga (three weeks in a tent for this
> months pay!) after something that's going to fall over in a few months
> time.
Snip

Yup, I've had my PPC card about 16 months and the Bvision for about 10
months,and they
both work like a dream.... and as for speed it goes like a bastard;-) 
 

Regards

Alan 
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Member of the Amiga RC5 Team.

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_Message Dated_: *Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:45:16 +0100*
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----
 
> 
> Can I suggest that everyone on this list replies directly to fd700990@ntu.ac.uk
> and tells him what they think of his remarks (as I've just done)
> 

Can somebody explain exactly what Ken said. There have been plenty of
emails advising us to flame, maim, destroy him, but I don't know why.

-- 

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    Daniel Pimley  :-)

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David Bacon said, 

> I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no problems
> with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!

> I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
> same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting 28800k
> MAX!!! :(

> Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the gain
> at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP

Ask BT if you've got DACS on the new line. If so, demand that they
remove it.


Neil
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-- 
Just got a new car for my wife....Great Trade!

I was wondering how big is Amiga in Germany, there seems to be alot of Amiga
companys over there and of course the europe headquaters is there.

Someone did say to me that there are more Amiga users than PC users in
Germany but i never believed him at the time (and still dont), could anyone
tell me the real size of the German Amiga Community? Maybe compared to the
the British Amiga Community?

I was just going to bed, when Neil Bothwick wrote this and I just HAD to read it:

> > What are you on about, Neil Bothwick?
 
> If you don't know, how do you expect me to know?

Are you sure you're not female? ;)

> > Okay, I'll probly wait till I get NC3 (next week hopefully...) and try
> > mFTP.
 
> Active received the NC3 CDs today, so most of the pre-orders should go
> out this weekend.

Um, hooray(!)  Shame I'll have to wait till next weekend to get time
to install it :(

> Neil

Paul C, in real time
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    One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies,
    and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
    deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult"
    --C.A.R. Hoare

Hello Neil

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

[snip]
> 
> Active received the NC3 CDs today, so most of the pre-orders should go
> out this weekend.
> 
Typical......you wait months for some new software to arrive and then two
turn up at once.....NC3 & OS3.5 in the same week.  :)

Regards

chris
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AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

On 21-Oct-99, Alan M Redhouse wrote:

>> Hi all,
>> Power have got their copies of OS3.5 in stock. Give 'em a ring on (01234)
>> 851500 and tell 'em I sent you...


> This stinks Ben

> Amiga sent them all out at once on Tuesday so there would be no stupid
> claims like this from individual dealers.

> I certainly didnt expect such biassed comment to come from your keyboard

1) you're jelous

2) What stupid claims? PowerC phoned Ben to say "We can start selling 3.5
now" how is that a stupid claim

3) What bias? he's just telling us 3.5 is ready and powerc have copies. if
you have any then why didn't you say so!??

idiot

ps. do something about that horrendous sig and quoting. I expect someone
from a bigger company like Eyetech to at least do that properly

<massive snip>

Mash - Not ordered 3.5 yet, and probably put of by eyetech's pettiness
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

Oxymoron: Guilty Scapegoats.

Paul Cundle said, 

> I was just going to bed, when Neil Bothwick wrote this and I just HAD to read
> it:

>> If you don't know, how do you expect me to know?

> Are you sure you're not female? ;)

Oi! I'll have you know I'm perfectly capable of reversing into a parking space :-O


Neil
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On 21-Oct-99, Eddie Maddock wrote:

>> It's always nice what a tit gets what's coming...

> So we're getting back to the cover of AF130 again are we ?

> And that's number three....  Steee-rike !!!   :)

Can't wait for issue 169 :D

Mash - perving
-- 
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Don't applaud until you have heard the music.

Hi M.
Somewhere around 21-Oct-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: The
official list randy bloke is back...

> Finally, some sense from the O'Neill clan! :)

> Oh yes, Words and Pictures is GOD! 

> Up, down, up and oveerrr! Up and down, up and OVERRR!

> Write those letters, baby!

Don't forget the builder!, "Build it with me, build it with me, grab a
letter, put it in place build it up with me..." Anyone else remember
"through the dragon's eye" ??....

Mash - reminising
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                               Matthew O'Neill

To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved.

Hi amipal@yahoo.com,

On 23-Oct-99 you wrote:

> You've probably been asked this a million times (or there abouts),

Yes...

> but
> here can I use YAM to post (and download) messages to afb?

Yes.

> Thanks for any help,

You're welcome ;)

Martin, being /slightly/ helpful.
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On StarDate:- 22 Oct 99 19:34:26 +0000

The following was added to the ships log:- [afb] Re: (Fwd) call charges and 'free' ISP's


SNIP
> I remember seeing an advert/preview thing in a magazine a couple of
> months ago about a video which lets you watch TV programmes and record
> them at the same time in different places. It was like a big, fast
> hard drive. You could record 15 minutes of a programme and then start
> watching it while the rest of the programme gets recorded and you can
> watch it all as if it was live, only 15 minutes after everyone else.
> You could therefore watch a whole day's programme schedule whenever
> you want.
> Now /that's/ time shifting!
SNIP

Yes the hard drive and compression routines are being expanded so that
a whole *MONTH* of recording can be saved. Plus they are giving the
drive brains in the fact that if you always watch StarTrek then it
will save this and *ANY* other related programs like B5 or if you
always watch the News at 11pm then it will record Newsnight etc etc.

In the immediate future look out for the ORB drive - sounds good.

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On 19-Oct-99, amipal@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> You have to have 3.1 or 3.5 won't work.
>> =

>> > I thought you just needed the ROMs?
>> =

>> You have to install 3.1 first in the beta I have, then OS3.5 over the
>top. I
>> wouldn't worry about having to buy it separately though, I think it
>will be
>> included on the CD anyway.

>Phew! (Images of money falling into drain gone)

This has most likely already been answered a few times, as I'm a few days=
 worth of mail behind at the moment ;-)

But the OS3.5 Pre Release CDs that were available at the Amiga Down Under=
 show DID
have OS3.1 on them, there were 2 install scripts, one for 3.1, then one f=
or 3.5

Hope that clears things up

Brett Gregory
-- =

Smoke Me A Kipper, I'll Be Back For Breakfast=

On 20-Oct-99, Sealey, M. wrote:

>> :)   Big time!  Especially as Im on #AmIRC on IRCnet from about 8pm -
>> 2am Fri, Sat, Sun.!  Catch me there and say hi. 

>Do you mind if I don't? I'm om #amiga on amiganet.org and #moobunny
>on babylon.beyondirc.net most of the time, another channel (especially
>one with Gaz Murfin in?) would probably break my head :)

Hmm, what nick do you use on these servers? :-) 

Brett Gregory
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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Saturday, 23-Oct-99, 01:45:43
 About:  [afb] Re: My new (and first) Web Page :) 


Hello Alan,

>>> The best? Notepad/GoldED/CygnusED and a big book on HTML design.
 
>> Which book is the best (but easy to follow), while being cheapish and
>> where can I get if (if it isnt a commonly available one).
 
> *buy* a book on HTML? theres enough online references that you can
> download off the net and read offline to your leisure...

http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert/web_guide/cover.html

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  David Bacon <dbacon@clara.net>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Saturday, 23-Oct-99, 09:52:16
 About:  [afb] Modem And BT Trouble 


Hello David,

> I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no problems
> with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!
> 
> I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
> same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting 28800k
> MAX!!! :(
> 
> Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the gain
> at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP
> 
> My Old House is approx 300 yrds away (I can even see the exchange from
> my bedroom window)
> 
> Can any one help??? Please!!!

Sounds like your planning to string some wires up....

Bye,
Evil Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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> Hello Alan
> On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
> [snip]
> > .....  AND our carriage on OS3.5 is only 3.00 for 1st class recorded
> > delivery (not 5 as from PC) ....
> >
> > (missed that first time round)
> > Alan
> >
> but...........you do charge 3% extra on credit card orders.......which you
> conveniently forgot to add as well.
>
> Regards
> chris

The bank is the one that charges the 3% actually (I used to take credit
cards selling computers.)

I don't recall paying an extra 3% when I ordered from Eyetech.. I'll have to
look at my reciepts.

Either way.. Eyetech has had the BEST customer support in my dealings so I'd
buy from them (If I weren't buying from North American dealer Software Hut.)

Regards,
Jack

Hello Andrew

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I was wondering how big is Amiga in Germany, there seems to be alot of
> Amiga companys over there and of course the europe headquaters is there.

  I wish it had been!!! That would have kept them Eurocrats from erecting
huge eye-offending glass towers around the North Station in Brussels.

  Patrice 

Hello Paul

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

> You've probably been asked this a million times (or there abouts), but
> here can I use YAM to post (and download) messages to afb?

  I know that two accurate answers have already been given ( "yes", and
"yes"! ) but I'd like to add, as a novice user, that I think it's the bes=
t and the
fastest way. All you have to do is change the settings of your subscripti=
on and
ask to receive your mail directly to your email address. If you encounter=
 problems
( and I doubt it ) you can contact me, but be careful : emails are trunca=
ted when you read them from your browser ( they're not if you use Yam ) =

  Mine must be corrected by removing the - and adding a p instead.

  Patrice=

Hello!

I found CUCD 27, came with the last issue of CU Amiga, a week ago. And
I wanted to use the Cinema4D program. Well, I can't get hold of the
serialnumber to the proram. So if anyone of you have the serialnumber,
please mail me at rundholt@yahoo.no.

Thank you for all your help.


Frank Eivind Rundholt

On 23-Oct-99 00:17:04 BST, amipal wrote:

> You've probably been asked this a million times (or there abouts), but
> here can I use YAM to post (and download) messages to afb?

Send mails to afb@egroups.com in YAM, to mail them to the list.  A much
better choice than using the eGroups web poster :)

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On 22-Oct-99 23:08:45 BST, jpjeffery wrote:

> Whenever I click on a text file I get the 'Execute a file' window pop
> up and filled in as follows: ":C/StartIDer <filename>".

Hmmm... this happens on the files on the CD?  For example, does this
happen when clicking +System/Info/AFCD_Survey.txt?

> Now I know that StartIDer is the file they used to use in CU Amiga
> Coverdisk CDs but no matter how often I run AF preferences I can't get
> rid of 'StartIDer' as the default.

Well, nothing on the AFCD makes any reference to IDer - I'm 100% sure
about that.  Send me (privately, not to the list) your ENV:AFCD.prefs file
and I'll take a look.

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<tsb>

Hello All,

I've just received my copy of NC3 and am already having problems. Voyager
Preview whatever (V 3.0.26) just won't work. It crashes the machine as soon
as it attempts to load. Snoopdos reports it attempting to open the V exe,
there is a slight pause and then we crash and burn. The rest of it seems OK
though. 

Bye,
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Hello!

I found CUCD 27, came with the last issue of CU Amiga, a week ago. And
I wanted to use the Cinema4D program. Well, I can't get hold of the
serialnumber to the proram. So if anyone of you have the serialnumber,
please mail me at rundholt@yahoo.no.

Thank you for all your help.


Frank Eivind Rundholt

Hello Godzilla

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> Hello Alan
>> On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> .....  AND our carriage on OS3.5 is only =A33.00 for 1st class record=
ed
>>> delivery (not =A35 as from PC) ....
>>> =

>>> (missed that first time round)
>>> Alan
>>> =

>> but...........you do charge 3% extra on credit card orders.......which=

>> you conveniently forgot to add as well.
> =

> The bank is the one that charges the 3% actually (I used to take credit=

> cards selling computers.)
> =

> I don't recall paying an extra 3% when I ordered from Eyetech.. I'll ha=
ve
> to look at my reciepts.
> =

Eyetech  _do_ charge you an extra 3% for credit card orders not the bank.=
 =

PowerC don't slap a surcharge on whatever you buy.  It wont be on the
reciept, btw.

It's all very well Alan stating that their P&P charges are cheaper but on=
ce
you add the 3% surcharge into the equation there's not that much differen=
ce
between Eyetech/PowerC.

Regards

chris
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> Well, nothing on the AFCD makes any reference to IDer - I'm 100% sure
> about that.  Send me (privately, not to the list) your ENV:AFCD.prefs file
> and I'll take a look.

I think it could be something to do with the NewIcons package which does it,
or some other tool which gives files of a certain type which don't have icons
a default action.

Neil

Hi Matthew

> Kneel before me you pitiful beings!, kneel before your master!,
> mwahahahahha. I just completed quake on nightmare level, will 100% kills
> and secrets :)))))
>
> ...........on my 030! lol

Dontcha just love that bit where you're plonked in a room with a shambler
and an ogre, you kill them then three fiends show up.  Great fun!

Tatty byes
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Hi Matt

> > > Plus you haven't put a DTD at the top. (see my site for an example)
> > >
> > > And HTML validator at..
> > >
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com/
> > > .. tells me that:
> >
> > Whats a DTD Matt?
>
> Document Type Definition. Take a look at the source at
> http://www.neko.u-net.com and note the first line - THAT is a DTD
>
> > And where can I get a HTML validator from?
>
> http://validator.w3.org
>
> Just put in the URL, and it'll check it to HTML 4.0  y default, or
whatever
> DTD you specify (I use HTML 4.01 for mine)

I noticed that - is that why it didn't throw a wobbly over your rollovers?

> > Oh, and how come the counter doent work in Netscape when it
> > works on my Miggy? -have to look into that one.
>
> Netscape sucks :)

IE4 didn't like it either...

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Hi Mash,
 
> >> It's always nice what a tit gets what's coming...

> > So we're getting back to the cover of AF130 again are we ?

> Can't wait for issue 169 :D

You *must* be desperate. That's 3 years off at present. Still,
the idea is a good one. Maybe they'll do a centre spread  ;)

Cheers,

Eddie

On 22-Oct-99 14:19:40, Gavin Williams said about [afb] OS3.5 has arrived !!!:

> My OS3.5 plopped thru the letterbox today ,hurrah. Well... here goes. Has
> anyone else received/installed it yet?

Yep, mine arrived from Power and I've just installed it!!!
Now to find all the things that don't work :(
Well,wbextender doesn't alter the about window now....
and why did it not give me the option to instal amigamail in my
work:internet drawer???


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Uin:19729444
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Hello Paul

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I remember seeing an advert/preview thing in a magazine a couple of
> months ago about a video which lets you watch TV programmes and record
> them at the same time in different places. It was like a big, fast
> hard drive. You could record 15 minutes of a programme and then start
> watching it while the rest of the programme gets recorded and you can
> watch it all as if it was live, only 15 minutes after everyone else.
> You could therefore watch a whole day's programme schedule whenever
> you want.
> Now /that's/ time shifting!

I also saw that, but i think it was limited in storage space, 8Hrs i think.

Regards
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Hello Phil

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Hello Paul Cundle,
> your comments on [afb] Re: StrICQ 0.1561 have got me thinking
 
>>> That is the version I am using. Everything has been fine, up until a few
>>> days ago. Every time I receive a message, the Amiga crashes.
> 
>> Probly no use, but WB went berzerk (not used that word for a long
>> time) with ICQ messages when I installed Birdie. Have you done this?

> Funny old world isn't it. I've got StrICQ 0.1561 and Birdie running
> without any problems. :-)

Me to, and mine works fine to.

Regards
-- 
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ICQ UIN:42618074

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Hello Tim

On 21-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Did anybody read the required system specs for the new voyager, as
> written in the docs you download with the demo (pasted below), and
> think hmm, I can use this on my A2000, then find out that they lied?

You'll need more than a 68k as well! There's no image decoder for 68K, its
020 minimum.

Regards,

Shurm.
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Reality is for people who lack imagination.

On 23-Oct-99 12:48:29 BST, Neil Bullock wrote:

>> Well, nothing on the AFCD makes any reference to IDer - I'm 100% sure
>> about that.  Send me (privately, not to the list) your ENV:AFCD.prefs
>> file and I'll take a look.

> I think it could be something to do with the NewIcons package which does
> it, or some other tool which gives files of a certain type which don't
> have icons a default action.

Well, yeah, I was thinking the same thing: DefIcons.  But, I don't see
how that can affect files on the CD that actually have icons, as they'll
call AFCDView.

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<tsb>

Hi

Has anyone here actually bought an FG24 digitiser from Analogic at
all? Have you actaully got it working ok, with no horizontal lines in
the images? If so, can you contact me privately as I'm still having
trouble getting a descent working one from them. I've had 3
replacements (so they say) so far, and they all have the same problem
- 50-100 horizontal lines spoiling the picture. They're on the
previews, grabs and renders. I've tried them all on my three Amigas -
one of them is totally unexpanded. Any help appreciated.

(the FG24 is the new name for the ProGrab24RT digitiser, made by
Elsat.)
-- 
Regards,
Bruce
Marske-by-the-Sea, Redcar, Cleveland, UK, sent to you with the:
=================================================================
Amiga 1200, Apollo 8030, MMU, FPU, 8mb fast ram, Power
scandoubler/flickerfixer, ADI 15" SVGA monitor, Pace 56kflex (v90)
modem, Hitachi 16xCDRom, Ext floppy drive, Canon BJC620 printer.
=================================================================

"oliver roberts" <oliver.robert-@iname.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33699
> On 22-Oct-99 23:08:45 BST, jpjeffery wrote:
> 
> > Whenever I click on a text file I get the 'Execute a file' window
pop
> > up and filled in as follows: ":C/StartIDer <filename>".
> 
> Hmmm... this happens on the files on the CD?  For example, does this
> happen when clicking +System/Info/AFCD_Survey.txt?

Nope. Only to files that have no 'information' associated with them
such as a Default Tool. i.e. Iconless files. An example file would be
almost any file on the Aminet CDs.

Odd thing is, my Miggy seems to change its mind and sometimes just come
up with the filename on its own (i.e. no ":C/StartIDer" in front of it.)

JJ (UK)
(Subscriber to FIGP Editor!)

On 23-Oct-99 14:57:32 BST, jpjeffery wrote:

> "oliver roberts" <oliver.robert-@iname.com> wrote: 
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33699
>> On 22-Oct-99 23:08:45 BST, jpjeffery wrote:
>> 
>> > Whenever I click on a text file I get the 'Execute a file' window
> pop
>> > up and filled in as follows: ":C/StartIDer <filename>".
>> 
>> Hmmm... this happens on the files on the CD?  For example, does this
>> happen when clicking +System/Info/AFCD_Survey.txt?

> Nope. Only to files that have no 'information' associated with them
> such as a Default Tool. i.e. Iconless files. An example file would be
> almost any file on the Aminet CDs.

Maybe I misunderstood your original question, but this has nothing to
do with AFCDPrefs.  Your AFCDPrefs settings will only be used if files
have a .info file associated with them, and if their default tool is set
to AFCDView.

It sounds to me as if you're running DefIcons, which is what is bringing
up the Execute command window with iconless files.  Check the def_#?.info
files in ENVARC:sys - you will probably find that the default tool for
def_ascii.info is set to :C/StartIDer.

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<tsb>

Hello Neil

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> sam said, 
> 
>>> The best? Notepad/GoldED/CygnusED and a big book on HTML design.
> 
>> Which book is the best (but easy to follow), while being cheapish and
>> where can I get if (if it isnt a commonly available one).
> 
> Go to a decent book store, like Waterstones, and browse their Computer
> section. They'll have a hundred or so HTML books. Almost all of them
> have the same basic information, the difference are in style, how deep
> they go, how Windows-centric they are, and the price. Pick the one you
> feel most comfortable with.
> 
> Or just buy the O'Reilly one, you can't reilly go wrong with their
> books :)

I can heartily recommend "Web Design in a Nutshell". :)

Regards

Hello Neil

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no
>> problems with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!
> 
>> I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
>> same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting 28800k
>> MAX!!! :(
> 
>> Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the gain
>> at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP
> 
> Ask BT if you've got DACS on the new line. If so, demand that they
> remove it.

What's DACS?

Regards

> Eyetech  _do_ charge you an extra 3% for credit card orders not the bank.
> PowerC don't slap a surcharge on whatever you buy.  It wont be on the
> reciept, btw.
>
> It's all very well Alan stating that their P&P charges are cheaper but
once
> you add the 3% surcharge into the equation there's not that much
difference
> between Eyetech/PowerC.
>
> Regards
>
> chris

You don't seem to get it. The REASON Eyetech charges the 3% is BECAUSE the
bank puts a 3% charge on Credit card purchases. At least in "Keyed"
transactions (The type where they don't swiped your card through the
machine, they just punch in the numbers) I used to sell computers retail and
accept credit cards and that's how it works. Some stores eat the loss of
entering credit card sales.. but it's still the banks charge...

It's too early in the morning for me to have to educate you any further so
please just figure it out.

I'm off to watch my kids play soccer.

P.S.
I don't care who you buy from... just buy.  :)

Regards,
Jack

I wonder if anyone out there has experience with the following problem.

The display output of my A1200 often flickers and gets corrupted (and
on occasion blacks out) and then corrects itself within a second
whenever I acccess any IDE device or use any menus.

The corruption looks like software is writing random data to the chip
mem, and then restoring things back again the next screen update. The
effect is rather like a poorly encoded mpeg video stream.

Its intermittent, indeed I've got it running on the other monitor now
and sometimes (as in now) its rock steady while accessing the HD or the
menus, but when I started typing this posting in it was flickering like
mad.

The flicker happens on all video outputs, though by default I am using
Productivity on an SVGA monitor.

As far as I can tell, none of my cables are loose.

For details of hardware and software I use, please look at :-

http://www.free0033124.free4all.co.uk/amiga/amiga2.html

Any ideas?

------------

Bearing in mind the age of the machine (I got it the year the A1200 was
first released), I suppose what I'd really like to do is retire it with
grace and get a new Amiga (and start all over again).

Are there any more up to date alternatives to my A1200 that are more
thn just a rumour (as you can imagine, I was really hoping that there
would be a MCC). I am particularly interested in ATX sized motherboard
alternatives. That Amiga on a PCI card that Access Innovations mention
but seem to be doing nothing about (last time I looked was 3 weeks ago)
would be my ideal solution, getting both machines back in to the same
case.

Martin

Hi Danny,

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I've just received my copy of NC3 and am already having problems.
> Voyager Preview whatever (V 3.0.26) just won't work. It crashes the
> machine as soon as it attempts to load.

The same thing happens here too, but only when I start it via NC3. I
had V3-pre4 downloaded and installed under demo mode before I got NC3,
and it now works prefectly as a fully registered program.

Regards, Andrew Bell.
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99% of all ferret recipes are recycled cat recipes.

G'day peeps,

I'm incredibly paranoid that when I connect using the 0800 number for
Wirenet, it's really using the 0845 number so it's not really free. Is
there any way (using AmTerm, maybe) of checking the last number I
dialled?

Ta,

Paul C, forever and a day
-- 
... "OK Mom, I'm going to hypnotize you now," said Tom transparently.

On 22-Oct-99, Alan Bailey wrote:

> Hello Phil A.

> On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> Here is a reply I had from ukonline with regards the authentication
>> problems

>> It does appear that we are having an Intermittent problem with our
>> Authentication Servers, however are engineers are working on this
>> and hopefully have the problem resolved very soon.

> I have had no problems with access via UkOnline, i downloaded a
> ready made config for Miami, all i had to do was add my user name
> and password, when miami is started i get connected first time
> eveytime.

I've been with Ukonline for nearly 2 years; and have only been getting
this problem for a few weeks, so I think my config is fine. . .

As it seems to be fairly random,  I suspect you are just a lucky
bastard 80

> You can get the Config file from:

> #www.ch.qub.ac.uk/staff/postdoc/tim/support/support/ukonline.lha#

> Regards
Regards
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/PGP Key available on request/

Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint.
-- Mark Twain

Well, mine is now installed after a rather bizarre 10 mins. I loaded 3.1
first, no problem, but when it rebooted the system my CD drive could no
longer be seen. I reinstalled SquirrelSCSI but this didn't work. Out of
desperation I went upstairs to dig out my OS3.0 disks in the hope of booting
from that with the CD drive, and when I returned, the CD drive had
miraculously sprung into life all on it's own and has worked fine ever
since. Truly bizarre. I have to say it's SO much better. Anyone who hasn't
got it or isn't sure yet go get it! My BVision displays work better too (I
never used to get true colour backdrops to the same quality as I do now.
Whether this is OS3.5 inspired or just me I'm not sure). Needed a crane to
get the bloody kickstart ROMs out though!

> On 22-Oct-99 14:19:40, Gavin Williams said about [afb] OS3.5 has arrived
!!!:
>
> > My OS3.5 plopped thru the letterbox today ,hurrah. Well... here goes.
Has
> > anyone else received/installed it yet?
>
> Yep, mine arrived from Power and I've just installed it!!!
> Now to find all the things that don't work :(
> Well,wbextender doesn't alter the about window now....
> and why did it not give me the option to instal amigamail in my
> work:internet drawer???
>
>
> --
> Ian Urie  <ianurie@jwu.u-net.com>
> Uin:19729444
> "Am I going to die, doctor?"   "Trust me, it's the last thing you'll do."
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!
>
>

On 21-Oct-99, Phil Sell wrote:

> Hello ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk

> Yes, of course I will

It's a poll, you're supposed to goto the website and click on the
corresponding button....

Mash - not voted yet
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Four-wheelers DO IT with better grip.

On 22-Oct-99, Eddie Maddock wrote:

>> ...........on my 030! lol

> ...on a 030 ?!?  Hmm, and was that with or without God mode?  ;)

perfectly normal mode

> Eddie (I've done Malice... all levels, including the secret ones...
> with the monitor switched off)

Well I did them 10 years before the game was released, so nya!

Mash - perfect
-- 
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                               Matthew O'Neill

There is no remedy for sex but more sex.

Hi M.
Somewhere around 22-Oct-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: My
new Email

> I just say 'tilde' and when they look at me in a blank manner,
> I say 'wavy line' and when they STILL look at me blankly I
> reach over their shoulder and do SHIFT-# and say 'TILDE' in
> a slightly irate way.

/me wonders why the @ sign is called a tilde.... ;)

Mash - being daft
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                               Matthew O'Neill

"Artificial Weightlessness" - by Andy Gravity

Hi MARRISR@uk.ibm.com
Somewhere around 22-Oct-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: AF130
- Month in view

> Read the mail below - it's the reply Alan sent to my mail saying he asked
> a rhetorical question (snipped) - so do me a favour and stay off my back,
> OK?

And what does that have to do with anything I've said? You're getting more
Sealeyish everyday

Mash - Not Matt
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Confucius say: Man who lay woman on ground have peace on earth.

On 22-Oct-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> btw, i dont think any of the Phase5 cards get detected in the bootmenu
> expansion card diagnotic 

My 030IV does

Mash - 
-- 
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Grave Mistakes: Paul Bearer

On 22-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>> What!!??? I answer all emails addressed to me unless they've come to an
>> end.

>  I forgot to apologize publicly, and hereby confirm that I owe you a
> pint.

/me sits by the air vents eargerly waiting :)....

Mash - thirsty
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Out of sight or in the element of light

On 22-Oct-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> could it be...that at last..someone uses the mythical MagTape command??
> ;-)

oooohhhh, how does this work then? Never got anything to recognise it before
:/

Mash - backed up now
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                               Matthew O'Neill

An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.

On 22-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>> Kneel before me you pitiful beings!, kneel before your master!,
>> mwahahahahha. I just completed quake on nightmare level, will 100% kills
>> and secrets :)))))

>  So you're /definitely/  my brother's double ( or is it the reverse? )
> Hope you won't mind if I forward him this great claim for victory.

I wanna net game :) on my 030 with 28.8k modem ho hum

Mash - god
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                               Matthew O'Neill

I am Al of Borg. Aww, Peg, I don't wanna assimilate you.

On 22-Oct-99, we could all read :

> Amiga Impact is a new website dedicated to the French-speaking
> Amiga community. 

Good news : I joined the list at once; there are two of us at the moment; we
already managed to communicate :-|

Bad news : Don't think you'll get rid of me so easily ;-)

  Greetings,

  Patrice

Hello Matthew O'Neill

On 21-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Mash - Mash - Mash - Mash

  Ah? So /that/'s your........! O.K., got it now; I had been thinking it =
was some kind
of ending insult ( just like they used in French Revolutionary papers aro=
und 1790,
you know? ) =


  My grandma used to say I could understand things very fast if you expla=
ined
them long enough ;-)

  Best regards,

  Patrice

> /me wonders why the @ sign is called a tilde.... ;)

  I don't know what you're all talking about, but in Spanish
a tilde is THIS : ~

  Patrice 

  Good evening!

  Something silly is happening to me. I was trying to type a nice
signature just to act like everyone else, when I suddenly found out that
I had completely forgotten how to enter escape commands using a text editor.

  I remember what each number means ( 1 for bold, 3 for italic etc. )
but I have no idea which keys to press : *e[1mshit! plainly appears
as *e[1mshit, that's all !

  I did that for years without thinking, and I swear I'm not drunk 
at the moment. I mean not yet, I'll have to take measures :-|

  Could you please stop laughing!

  Patrice :-(
 

On 20-Oct-99, Matthew O'Neil wrote:

> Can we have some porn anyway though? ;)

  Which makes me think of warning anyone who would like 
to visit http://www.a-news.com :* don't forget to type the "-"*,
or you might have a shock!

  Patrice

Hello Ben

Yesterday, you wrote:

> you're only slightly being pessimistic with regard to Amiga.

  That kept me thinking for a while, but I can state at least two reasons=
 :

- I've always been more than slighly pessimistic with regard to almost ev=
erything.

- If you look at the greenish leaflet included in AF 127, you'll see a =

  big unnamed desert on the left of the map, just south of Britain.

  I'm doing my best to improve; it will help if the French mag actually
reappears ( I mean for more than one issue ) and sticks its subject!

  Amigully yours,

  Patrice - About to vote after 15 years of abstention.

Hi Mash!

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I wanna net game :) on my 030 with 28.8k modem ho hum

  I quite understand, but :

- Brother-of-mine only plays wargames ( and bought himself a P.C. just to
prove he is Napoleon, which might be true... ) 

- He doesn't understand English as well as I thought; I had to translate
your message so that he could really enjoy it.

  Anyway, I'm sure he'll be glad to join me as soon as I come to Britain.
I trust you'll tell me where is your favorite pub, then.

  Patrice - recovering from slight alements.

  

On 23-Oct-99 13:15:47, Paul Cundle said about [afb] Worried? Call Paranoia-800:
> G'day peeps,

> I'm incredibly paranoid that when I connect using the 0800 number for
> Wirenet, it's really using the 0845 number so it's not really free. Is
> there any way (using AmTerm, maybe) of checking the last number I
> dialled?

That depends....if you are using miami ,why not leave it at the dialler page
and it will show what it is dialling, or look in its logfile ,again it
shows what it dialled.
-- 
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Uin:19729444
I'm not fat! - just gravitationally challenged.

funky_gibbo-@talk21.com wrote: 

> Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
> fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? 

Without doubt it is the finest add-on for the A1200. It will transform
your Amiga and no way would I go back to using AGA. 
My system works fine and have no problems. I have more trouble with MUI
than the BVision.

All the best

Alex

What are you on about, Malcolm Harnden?

> > I remember seeing an advert/preview thing in a magazine a couple of
> > months ago about a video which lets you watch TV programmes and record
> > them at the same time in different places. 

> Yes the hard drive and compression routines are being expanded so that
> a whole *MONTH* of recording can be saved. 

Are you sure? Sounds a bit much if you ask me.

> Plus they are giving the drive brains in the fact that if you always
> watch StarTrek then it will save this and *ANY* other related
> programs like B5 or if you always watch the News at 11pm then it
> will record Newsnight etc etc.

Yep, forgot about that bit.

> Malcolm Harnden

Paul C, talking loudly
-- 
... Transvestite, n:
    A man who wants to eat, drink and be Mary.

Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
by the name of Alan Bailey.

> > I remember seeing an advert/preview thing in a magazine a couple of
> > months ago about a video which lets you watch TV programmes and record
> > them at the same time in different places.

> I also saw that, but i think it was limited in storage space, 8Hrs
> i think.

A bit different to Malcolms whole month then...

8hrs still isn't bad. 'Normal' videos don't usually take more than
8hrs at a time, and once you've started watching a programme it can
just go and wipe over the bit you've watched when you need the space.

> Alan Bailey

Paul C, observing subjective reality in a netherworld of endless
absurdity.
-- 
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    One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies,
    and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
    deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult"
    --C.A.R. Hoare

Hello Patrice

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

>  Which makes me think of warning anyone who would like 
> to visit http://www.a-news.com :* don't forget to type the "-"*,
> or you might have a shock!
> 
>  Patrice

No shock, a nice pleasant suprise.

Regards
-- 
Alan Bailey

ICQ UIN:42618074

WARNING: consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a
wanker.

I was just going to bed, when Patrice Champarou wrote this and I just HAD to read it:

> > /me wonders why the @ sign is called a tilde.... ;)
 
>   I don't know what you're all talking about, but in Spanish
> a tilde is THIS : ~

He was being oh-so-witty and humourous: On Amiga keyboards (the A1200
at least) shift-# is the @ symbol.  Matt (I think) was talking about
PC keyboards.

>   Patrice 

Paul C, in jest of course
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    hard for the public to believe. The term 'etymology' was formed from
    the Latin 'etus' ("eaten"), the root 'mal' ("bad"), and 'logy'
    ("study of"). It meant "the study of things that are hard to swallow."

Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
by the name of Ian Urie.

> > I'm incredibly paranoid that when I connect using the 0800 number for
> > Wirenet, it's really using the 0845 number so it's not really free. Is
> > there any way (using AmTerm, maybe) of checking the last number I
> > dialled?

> That depends....if you are using miami ,why not leave it at the dialler page
> and it will show what it is dialling, or look in its logfile ,again it
> shows what it dialled.

I'm using Genesis and it only shows the interface being used (which
for any normal person would be enough ;)). It's log file gives the
same info.

> Ian Urie

Paul C, with thunder and lightning
-- 
... Biggest ever contradiction: MicroSoft Works!

Hi

Why does the first poll have 3 options, yet 4 have been voted for?......

Mash
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

Don't get caught with your pants down when the lights come on.

I was just going to bed, when Matthew O'Neill wrote this and I just HAD to read it:

> Why does the first poll have 3 options, yet 4 have been voted for?......

Probably because it's incredibly easy to hack the egroups poll page. 
Like I know in your "Is Rich evil?" poll, which one you voted for,
even though it's a closed poll. Hahahahahahahahaha.

> Mash

Paul C, in a league of his own
-- 
... Wanted: 50 girls for stripping machine operators in factory

Hello Alan

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

> No shock, a nice pleasant suprise.

  I was sure someone would go and have a look. I knew a site under
construction could be somewhat... naked, but not to that extent!
  For a few seconds, I wondered if A-News was trying to beat AF's cover.

  Patrice - ready for sweet dreams.

Hello Paul

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

> He was being oh-so-witty and humourous: On Amiga keyboards (the A1200
> at least) shift-# is the @ symbol.  Matt (I think) was talking about
> PC keyboards.

You replied to a person with a french e-mail address, do A1200s in france
have the same keyboard layout?.

Regards
-- 
Alan Bailey

ICQ UIN:42618074

Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed.
-- Carolyn Scheppner

Hiya Guys,

How do I setup multiple addresses in Yam...

I use BippyM@Stingent.freeserve.co.uk and would like to setup a couple of
others for software registration they are :

AmPCSBugs@stingent.freeserve.co.uk   and
AmPCSReg@stingent.freeserve.co.uk

but when I add a new user and create the above I get an error saying BAD
PASS?? Do I need to register these addresses with a password from freeserve
or what??

T'ra
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> Superb! We could use something like this as an alternative to ARTM! :)

Ummm Scout has been bettering ARTM for ages..?

> All the best,
> -- 
> Ben Vost (x2337)                T: (+44) 01225 442244
> Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
>             PGP key available upon request
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!


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Alan Bailey reckons he knows a bit about [afb] Re: My new Email, but there's more to it than that.

> > He was being oh-so-witty and humourous: On Amiga keyboards (the A1200
> > at least) shift-# is the @ symbol.  Matt (I think) was talking about
> > PC keyboards.
 
> You replied to a person with a french e-mail address, do A1200s in france
> have the same keyboard layout?.

I think so. Don't they? [/me goes off to ponder it]

> Alan Bailey

Paul C, thinking of someone, but not you
-- 
... "There are two ways of constructing a software design:
    One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies,
    and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
    deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult"
    --C.A.R. Hoare

Hello Peeps..

I received my OS3.5 and KS3.1 yesterday, when I put the roms in I got
a lovely purple screen (not the insert disk screen) and my A1200 not
booting.

I tracked the problem down to my Viper Mk 2 030 28Mhz (The original
Viper not the ones Power Computing are selling now) and its memory
simm...  

If I take the simm out it boots fine.  (I'v try'd other memory BTW)

Just wondering has anyone else had problems with ks3.1?

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Hello Bippy

On 18-Oct-99, you wrote:

> How do I setup multiple addresses in Yam...
> 
> I use BippyM@Stingent.freeserve.co.uk and would like to setup a couple of
> others for software registration they are :
> 
> AmPCSBugs@stingent.freeserve.co.uk   and
> AmPCSReg@stingent.freeserve.co.uk
> 
> but when I add a new user and create the above I get an error saying BAD
> PASS?? Do I need to register these addresses with a password from
> freeserve or what??

You should be able to just use them with no setup, but you might like to add
a filter so the mail gets put where you want, ive sent some test e-mails to
the above addresses.

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Hello dRX

Op 01-mrt-64 schreef dRX:

> Hello Peeps..
> 
> I received my OS3.5 and KS3.1 yesterday, when I put the roms in I got
> a lovely purple screen (not the insert disk screen) and my A1200 not
> booting.
> 
> I tracked the problem down to my Viper Mk 2 030 28Mhz (The original
> Viper not the ones Power Computing are selling now) and its memory
> simm...  
> 
> If I take the simm out it boots fine.  (I'v try'd other memory BTW)
> 
> Just wondering has anyone else had problems with ks3.1?

It's your Viper, i also had the same accelerator in my A1200, and had the
same problem with KS3.1.
According to the dealer ,who sold it to me,  the ROM on the Viper needs to
be replaced by a newer one.
It was for me too much of a hassle to send it of and it probally would cost
me more then the whole accelerator.
I gave it to my little brother, after i bought a secondhand A4000.

> 
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On 23-Oct-99, martin.shaw@free4all.co.uk wrote:

> I wonder if anyone out there has experience with the following
> problem.

*snip*

Turn all the full white pens in your palette down a bit; 250,250,250
or something.

I had a similar problem which was cured by doing just that.


>
> Martin




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Hello Godzilla

On 23-Oct-99, Godzilla wrote:


> I'm off to watch my kids play soccer.

Snap I go and watch my kid's play in the Ladywood Little league (Birmingham)
My eldest son 13 is the capt and play's in the centre of defence,and my
middle son play's in goal.They both play in the same team and have just
lost their first game of the season but still top.I wonder if you shout and
get as excited as I do watching your kids play and then showing them the
proper way to play :) reliving your childhood is brill and you can smoke
and drink the best of all worlds,BTW I played in the early 70's flared
shorts brown hard toed boots and shin pads were for whimps,plus 5 hour
games in the park of a Sunday jumpers for goal posts etc   :-)

Hi Mash,

> > Eddie (I've done Malice... all levels, including the secret ones...
> > with the monitor switched off)

> Well I did them 10 years before the game was released, so nya!

Impossible, unless you've got...  a time machine !   :)

Get ye to the future this very instant and bring me back my NGAmiga,
which I know is out there   ;)

Cheers,

Eddie

Hello All

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:


>DS I've just received my copy of NC3 and am already having problems. 

I have just upgraded AWeb 3.2 to 3.3 If you really want to see how a browser
should work, you can do a lot worse than taking  a look at  AWeb, IMHO.

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Dear Folks,

I wonder anyone installed the OS V3.5 on their Amiga and is it compatible
with other Programs??

I will sure to order OS V3.5 and Amiga Forever!!

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Patrice Champarou <pmchamp@club-internet.fr>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Sunday, 24-Oct-99, 06:20:55
 About:  [afb] Escape! 


Hello Patrice,

>  Something silly is happening to me. I was trying to type a nice
> signature just to act like everyone else, when I suddenly found out
> that I had completely forgotten how to enter escape commands using a
> text editor.
> 
>  I remember what each number means ( 1 for bold, 3 for italic etc. )
> but I have no idea which keys to press : *e[1mshit! plainly appears
> as *e[1mshit, that's all !
> 
>  I did that for years without thinking, and I swear I'm not drunk 
> at the moment. I mean not yet, I'll have to take measures :-|

Well, if pressing the escape key itself doesn't insert the escape code
into your text, then you can often use the equivelent control key and
left square bracket key combination.  Though that's usually a direct
key combination equivelent (which means if pressing escape didn't work,
this probably will be ignored too).

Another option is to write in the (fairly widely) accepted control key
character combination, of putting the carat symbol in the text to
represent control plus the key it's pressed with.

So bold being escape left square bracket 1 m, you could write it in as
^[[1m (using the scheme I just described).

If you're using Ed, it won't allow the escape code to be put into a
document, as it uses that key for internal functions.  Even if you load
in a pre-edited document with escape codes, it removes them.  So this
is the only way to do it with Ed that I remember.

Whether you can use ^[ for escape, or *e[ (which I've never tried, by
the way), is up to what ever will display the end result.  Some ANSI
viewers will ignore these equivelents.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Paul Hilder <paul@theterrace.u-net.com>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Sunday, 24-Oct-99, 00:14:39
 About:  [afb] Re: Modem And BT Trouble 


Hello Paul,

>>> I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no
>>> problems with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!
>>> 
>>> I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
>>> same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting 28800k
>>> MAX!!! :(
>> 
>>> Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the gain
>>> at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP
 
>> Ask BT if you've got DACS on the new line. If so, demand that they
>> remove it.
 
> What's DACS?

I can't resist this...  Over here, at least, Daks are a brand of
underwear.  So you're going to ask them to take their Daks off?

Bye,
Evil Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Bippy M <BippyM@stingent.freeserve.co.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Tuesday, 19-Oct-99, 08:43:21
 About:  [afb] Yam and Multiple addresses!?!? 


Hello Bippy,

> How do I setup multiple addresses in Yam...
> 
> I use BippyM@Stingent.freeserve.co.uk and would like to setup a couple
> of others for software registration they are :
> 
> AmPCSBugs@stingent.freeserve.co.uk   and
> AmPCSReg@stingent.freeserve.co.uk
> 
> but when I add a new user and create the above I get an error saying
> BAD PASS?? Do I need to register these addresses with a password from
> freeserve or what??

Are you talking about sending from multiple addresses, or collecting
mail from different mail boxes?

To send from a different address, you can either set up multiple
configurations (multiple users), or just change the FROM address in the
options of the e-mail editor before sending the message.

To download mail from various servers, open the config to the TCP/IP
page, in the receive mail section, press new, and enter the server
name, the user ID and password for each account.

The active button means that this address will be checked when you get
mail (otherwise you have to check this mailbox individually from a
menu).

Login using APOP is an alternative protocol (which doesn't work for me,
despite other mailer programs work (on the same ISP).

Delete mail on server should be selected, unless you are downloading
mail that you will also download (and delete) on another computer later
on (e.g. checking work mail now, but also at work).

I'm sure that if your different addresses were all at the same server,
you'd configure it the same way (i.e. make a complete entry for each
address, even though you keep typing in the same server name).

For more help, you can join the YAM mailing list (it has nowhere near
the amount of mail this mailing list has, so you won't get swamped).

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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The following was added to the ships log:- [afb] Re: (Fwd) call charges and 'free' ISP's



> What are you on about, Malcolm Harnden?
> 
> > > I remember seeing an advert/preview thing in a magazine a couple of
> > > months ago about a video which lets you watch TV programmes and record
> > > them at the same time in different places. 
> 
> > Yes the hard drive and compression routines are being expanded so that
> > a whole *MONTH* of recording can be saved.

Yep a whole month, 4 startreks 4 tommorows worlds four newsnights -
how many hours does this add up to so far.....

> >>> I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no
> >>> problems with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!
> >>> 
> >>> I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
> >>> same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting
28800k
> >>> MAX!!! :(
> >> 
> >>> Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the
gain
> >>> at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP
>  
> >> Ask BT if you've got DACS on the new line. If so, demand that they
> >> remove it.
>  
A DACS unit multiplexes two lines over one copper pair, if the DACS
only has
one line on it you may be lucky and get it deshared. If it has two
lines (the
other line could be feeding a neighbour) then you will probably come up
against
a brick wall as it is BTs policy not to make any alterations to the
network at
its own expense for modem use. As far as BT is concerned a phone line
is for
speech, if you want fast data transfer you should have ordered
something like
an ISDN2E or Home Highway. DACS is an Oftel approved method of phone
service.
It is worth asking how much it would cost you to pay to be deshared as
it
depends on why it was put in, it could be thousands or it could be less
than
=A3100.

Can anyone guess who I work for?

I wish you luck in your battle with BT, it does depend on whether the
person
looking at your order follows the rules or not (lets hope they don't
and you
get deshared). 

Chris

PS A DACS unit works at 144K transfer rate, its a shame you can't just
plug a
modem straight into it!

Hello Alan

On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

> You replied to a person with a french e-mail address, do A1200s in france
> have the same keyboard layout?.

  I was 99.9% sure they did, but I tried to /loqd the British key,qp qnd<<</
No, I can't believe it! Don't tell me you use QWERTY! Is it normal, or did
the American force you?

Regards

  Patrice - not completely awake; more coffee, please.

Hello Tim

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Well, if pressing the escape key itself doesn't insert the escape code
> into your text, then you can often use the equivelent control key and
> left square bracket key combination. =


  Thank you for your long answer; in fact, I've just discovered that it w=
orked perfectly if I viewed my keyfile text from any normal text reader, =
but *not with*
*Yam*! I think I'll join the Yam list instead of bothering everyone.

  Thank you again,

  Patrice=

chris.cregan said, 

> PS A DACS unit works at 144K transfer rate, its a shame you can't just
> plug a
> modem straight into it!

The same bandwidth as ISDN, 2 x 64K + 16K. And it gives the same number
of lines, do they use the same technology? There was also a story
floating around that the analogue lines on Home Highway are DACS'd. It
would explain why I only get a 31200 connect when I try to use an
analogue modem with it.


Neil
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Paul Cundle said, 

> I'm incredibly paranoid that when I connect using the 0800 number for
> Wirenet, it's really using the 0845 number so it's not really free.

It's not using the 0845 line, it's using the 01925491112 line and the
0800 number. It's not free, but you don't pay for it.

Or are you worried that Miami may have failed to connect on 0800 and
fallen back to 0845? This is a real concern, although it's not happened
yet, so I wrote a script to check Miami's dial log file immediately
after connecting. It puts up a requester if the number you connected to
doesn't start "0800".

Any Wirenet subscriber using Miami can mail me for a copy, I'll clean it
up later, add Genesis support, and put it on the web site.


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Hi

Only with getting the damn 3.0 Roms out. Almost considered tying them to the
bumper of my car and reversing the beggars out!

Later

Gavin


> Hello Peeps..
>
> I received my OS3.5 and KS3.1 yesterday, when I put the roms in I got
> a lovely purple screen (not the insert disk screen) and my A1200 not
> booting.
>
> I tracked the problem down to my Viper Mk 2 030 28Mhz (The original
> Viper not the ones Power Computing are selling now) and its memory
> simm...
>
> If I take the simm out it boots fine.  (I'v try'd other memory BTW)
>
> Just wondering has anyone else had problems with ks3.1?
>
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Hi Everybody,

> How do I setup multiple addresses in Yam...
> =

> I use BippyM@Stingent.freeserve.co.uk and would like to setup a couple =
of
> others for software registration they are :
> =

> AmPCSBugs@stingent.freeserve.co.uk   and
> AmPCSReg@stingent.freeserve.co.uk
> =

> but when I add a new user and create the above I get an error saying BA=
D
> PASS?? Do I need to register these addresses with a password from frees=
erve
> or what??

   Nah, that's not how these 'infinite' email address systems work.

   You see, if we sent an email to BippyM@Stingent.freeserve.co.uk then a=
ll the freeserve server looks at is the @Stingent.freeserve.co.uk, you co=
uld replace the BippyM with /anything/ and it'd still arive in your email=
 box.


   Therefore, when people send an email to AmPCSReg@stingent.freeserve.co=
=2Euk it'll end up in your email box anyway, it'd just say 'To: AmPCSReg@=
stingent.freeserve.co.uk' instead.  If you liked you could set up a filte=
r to move all of these to their own folder.


   These so called infinite email addresses are a bit of a fiddle eh? The=
re basically the same address...

See ya :)
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Help

I have just installed a Power Computing 4 way IDE buffered interface in my
towered A1200 and on putting everything back together it all works, except
the floppy drives, both DF0 & DF1.

This makes it a little difficult to install the EIDE'99 software.

When I turn on the DF0 drive access light comes on and stays on but when
a disc is inserted, the drive doesn't spin.

The DF1 drive is connected to the external drive port and appears to be
completely dead, no light and no spin!

Can anyone shed any light on why the drives don't work.

On 23-Oct-99, rundholt@yahoo.no wrote:

> I wanted to use the Cinema4D program. Well, I can't get hold of the
> serialnumber to the proram. So if anyone of you have the serialnumber,
> please mail me at rundholt@yahoo.no.

You're not allowed it, some daft reason....dunno why. So I WON'T be sending
it to you off list of course.

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